New Holland Parts Sticker Shock

Traditional Farmer · Aug 9, 2015

On one of my NH 851 balers the bearing on one of the idler sprockets on the main chain with the bars went out,I'd bought the sprocket,bearing,and side plates about 5 or 6 years ago all for around $40.Now the price is $145 for the sprocket,$60+ for the bearing and $60 for the two plates.$250+ for the same parts that were $40 6 years ago!Well I ordered the bearing(not in stock) and the two side plates soon as I get the bearing I'll be at an
Industrial Supplier to match that up.Need to get my parts baler torn apart and parts put up for sure.

Hayfarmer · Aug 9, 2015

I used to think just JD was so proud of their parts, started working on IH more and found they like theirs too. NH used to be pretty reasonable but lately have noticed the same thing as you. There also seems to be no reason behind what is expensive and what is cheaper. I bought a couple feed fork tines the other day, made of aluminum, that were $13 each. Priced a couple others and they are $31 each. I bought a flywheel center busing a few years back and it was $95. I guess they are trying to catch up with everybody else or think that since new equipment is so expensive they can charge a lot for parts. Part of the reason I bought 2 parts balers a couple years ago.

MN Scott · Aug 9, 2015

New Holland is part of Fiat. Fiat is in financial trouble and they are trying to glean every penny they can. Case New Holland parts are generally higher priced than Deere parts now.

Bob · Aug 9, 2015

Nothing new. New Holland (baler and stackliner) parts were already UNREASONABLE in the 70's.

Brown Swiss · Aug 9, 2015

big difference in dealers also, I had to get a 1.75" bearing, the New Holland dealer close to me wanted 60, and the other NH dealer wanted 45 a piece for the same bearing. Still better than the Deere dealer, they want to charge for the lock collar also, told them once if they took out the set screw they could get another couple dollars! LOL

JD Seller · Aug 9, 2015

Brown Swiss your correct in dealerships having different margins. NH was one of the first to enable dealerships to do this. They called it regional equalizing. I was working on a NH 352 grinder mixer. I bought it with a broken unloading system. I made a list of the parts I needed. I priced at two different dealerships. The one was over $900 in parts and the other was at $750. This would have been 1988 or so. Many fellows where working for $300 a week then so a $150 bucks would be more like $3-4 hundred now.

I think the CIH and NH lines will see wild price increases on their parts and a general cheapening of their products. That has been Fiat's mode of operation for years. Milk the money making divisions to support the money pit of their car lines in Europe. Then when they have wrung out the goodies then they will dump what is left and that will not be the loser car division.

RodinNS · Aug 9, 2015

I don't think there's any consistent answer on parts pricing. I have a mixture of stuff and buy from NH, Deere and AGCO dealers fairly regularly. As an example, this week I had to order 48 0-rings for a mower cutterbar. Deere had them for 3.50 or so each, the local AGCO (Kuhn dealer in this instance) had the same o-ring for 4.79. The NH dealer had them for 41 cents each. Not one of them had a set.... or even close to a set so I ended up buying from all three just to get enough. On other items I've seen Deere priced at less than half of NH on the same part and if you go a step further, the A&I line part was less than 1/10th the NH price in the same Deere bag as the other Deere part... and the seals in that case were identical.
All I can say to anyone... is SHOP AROUND. They are all... all over the map on pricing. Right now I'm waiting on a solenoid to come from the UK because nobody on this side of the pond even sells the damn thing and I wasn't paying over 900 bucks to upgrade a valve I don't need.

Rod

old · Aug 9, 2015

Ya I had to replace one of those a couple years ago on my 850NH baler. I made sure to keep the old one and have plans to get a new bearing for it but just have not got around to it yet. A couple years ago I also had to replace a couple of chain links so when I got them I got extras just in case

john in la · Aug 9, 2015

NH is not the only ones.
I went to Deere to buy some bearings for my mower.
Deere only sells the entire assembly with the bearing installed. Told the guy no way was I spending $150 for a $5 bearing.
Went to the bearing house. After measuring it we found out it was a odd size so even they did not have it.
I was about to concede when I found out MF uses the same bearing on corn heads.
Went back to the Deere dealer and ask if he would order part # xxx from A&I.
Perfect fit.
Hey at least the Deere dealer made the sale.

NY 986 · Aug 9, 2015

Deere is generally less expensive on things such as oil. I don't think the ultra high quality is there like it was a generation ago on the other hand. All things considered I still come out ahead on Deere IMO.

Pair-a-dice farm · Aug 9, 2015

You're right. I can order parts on line from a dealer on the other side of the state, even after paying shipping I can get it at least 10% cheaper and most of the time get it quicker. Unless it's a 150+ hp my local dealer doesn't carry parts.
I haven't found my tractor parts any higher than other brands but hay equipment parts are ridiculous.

mtny · Aug 9, 2015

Bearings , sprockets , chain and such can always be found cheaper on the web . Do a search . I use rollerchainfor less.com recently for a nh sprocket delivered to my door for 70percent less than their price.

Texasmark1 · Aug 10, 2015

Did you check out "Yesterday's Tractors"? I just got some parts for my '60's era Fords. Great price, super service.

oldtanker · Aug 10, 2015

(quoted from post at 09:37:11 08/09/15) New Holland is part of Fiat. Fiat is in financial trouble and they are trying to glean every penny they can. .

Somehow I'm glad I'm not the only one who knows that.

JDseller, gotta agree.

Rick

mj · Aug 10, 2015

(quoted from post at 06:50:19 08/09/15) On one of my NH 851 balers the bearing on one of the idler sprockets on the main chain with the bars went out,I'd bought the sprocket,bearing,and side plates about 5 or 6 years ago all for around $40.Now the price is $145 for the sprocket,$60+ for the bearing and $60 for the two plates.$250+ for the same parts that were $40 6 years ago!Well I ordered the bearing(not in stock) and the two side plates soon as I get the bearing I'll be at an
Industrial Supplier to match that up.Need to get my parts baler torn apart and parts put up for sure.

For once, INFLATION has little to do with it - $40 in 2009 had the same 'buying power' as $44.68 in 2015. SO, as others have said, it depends on the policies and financial condition of the company and it's dealers. Hey, maybe the dealership wants to add 100,000 sq. ft. to their building or.....who knows what?? :shock:

donjr · Aug 10, 2015

CNH parts have gone nuts in pricing. Anymore, I go to a local auto supply store with a bad bearing first and see what they can do. Sprockets, etc., the welding shop, and CNH for the bearing holders the auto dealer doesn't carry. Another thing you really have to watch out for at the CNH dealers now is the bearing quality. They'll have two bearings listed for most parts. One cheap, from Chin A, and another good bearing from JA Pan, and maybe a US one. Your choice, but I can't get a lot of service from the cheap ones, and the down time putting a second one in can get very costly, so I go for the better ones.....

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