Found in the basement

Married2Allis

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Some german guy had a 1943 Panther tank in the cellar, occasionally took it out and cruised the neighborhood!

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Story says he also had a torpedo and an anitaircraft gun. His lawyers claim all were deactivated (where's the fun in that?). Apparently they were looking for stolen Nazi art when they came across the weapons - so this guy might have bigger issues. How big of "war criminal" could he be if he was only 8 years old when WW2 ended?
 

The real crime was the dopes in the US military brass that sent men to their deaths with 75mm Sherman tanks against German tanks.
 
Imagine what the Germans thought when they were going up against 76MM armed tank with a 37MM armed tank.
 
(quoted from post at 09:35:46 07/07/15)
The real crime was the dopes in the US military brass that sent men to their deaths with 75mm Sherman tanks against German tanks.
ave you thought about the problems of building tanks that size and shipping them to Europe?
 
I read a story that the German used the tank to push snow for his neighbors. The art was the bronze horses that were in front of the Riech in Berline.
 
If that was in MY basement, it would be piled with junk and I'd never be able to use it (like my table saw, workbench, any other flat surface, etc.) :lol:
 

What was the problem shipping a M4 firefly compared to a M2 75mm ? The M4 firefly had lower losses of men and machines. There is a huge shipping advantage right there .
 
I was having lunch with a dealer salesman a mile down the road from where Hoffa was grabbed that day - but I don't know where he got planted.
 
I was talking about the Russian 76MM in the T34. Germans went toe to toe with it with their own 37MM in the Panzer III - a tank that was inferior in every way to any varient of the M4.
 
Wow. I think he has been planted as many places as Elvis has been seen. Someone once said that was one thing that will never be extinct is the "Spotted Elvis"
 
They were transporting the M26 to the European theater right at the end of the war. The brass knew about gas powered tanks and the lite gun on the Sherman and sent them into combat knowing it was inadequate when facing any German tank armed with the 88MM or other larger bore German gunned tanks.

M26 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M26_Pershing

So that means that the senior brass knew they were getting people killed yet they sent field commanders the Shermans anyway. This happened in the Pentagon even above Ike's level of decision making.

Interestingly enough they could have added extra armor and mounted a large gun on the Sherman. The Israelis Had then until sometime in the 70's. They had up gunned them to the M68 105 MM gun.

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 15:33:40 07/07/15) They were transporting the M26 to the European theater right at the end of the war. The brass knew about gas powered tanks and the lite gun on the Sherman and sent them into combat knowing it was inadequate when facing any German tank armed with the 88MM or other larger bore German gunned tanks.

M26 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M26_Pershing

So that means that the senior brass knew they were getting people killed yet they sent field commanders the Shermans anyway. This happened in the Pentagon even above Ike's level of decision making.

Interestingly enough they could have added extra armor and mounted a large gun on the Sherman. The Israelis Had then until sometime in the 70's. They had up gunned them to the M68 105 MM gun.

Rick

According to their doctrine, tanks seldom should be fighting other tanks, they relied on air power and artillery to fight tanks.
 
Doctrine and practice - anti tank guns and tank detroyers are meant to fight tanks.

In France and NW Europe enemy tanks only account for 14% of the total allied tank losses. Mines account for 22%, anti tank guns 23%, self propelled anti tank guns 25%, bazookas another 14%.


In North Africa there were a lot more tank on tank battles - but even then only 38% of the tanks lost in combat were due to other tanks.


American "wet storage" late in the war made the M4 a much "safer" tank than any version of the T34 or Panzer IV.
 
Hoffa is planted right along side bama's school transcript, work records and actual birth certificate. No one will ever find them
 
(quoted from post at 15:53:31 07/07/15)
(quoted from post at 15:33:40 07/07/15) They were transporting the M26 to the European theater right at the end of the war. The brass knew about gas powered tanks and the lite gun on the Sherman and sent them into combat knowing it was inadequate when facing any German tank armed with the 88MM or other larger bore German gunned tanks.

M26 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M26_Pershing

So that means that the senior brass knew they were getting people killed yet they sent field commanders the Shermans anyway. This happened in the Pentagon even above Ike's level of decision making.

Interestingly enough they could have added extra armor and mounted a large gun on the Sherman. The Israelis Had then until sometime in the 70's. They had up gunned them to the M68 105 MM gun.

Rick

According to their doctrine, tanks seldom should be fighting other tanks, they relied on air power and artillery to fight tanks.

According to doctrine but in real life in those days a camouflaged tank was hard to see from the air and when tanks around you are exploding artillery is only minutes away as is close air. And that's what happened a lot. The Germans would pick a spot and ambush the attacking force with tanks and anti tank guns from covered and concealed position with arty tossed in good measure, maybe a few mines too. You should try fighting your tank, calling in a contact report, trying to call artillery and air all at the same time. It gets just a little intense. Same can be said for the infantry or scout too.

Rick
 

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