Filled out a job application today

37chief · Jun 30, 2015

Last job application I filled out was 45 years ago. At 72 I didn't think I was going to be doing that again in my life time. A three day mowing job came up. I did it last year. The tree service I'm doing if for, says I need to be on their payroll this year, because the land has different owners this year. I really don't know why, because I have my own liability insurance. This is federal land now, maybe that has something to do with it. Not a problem. I will get the same money I got last year. I wonder if they have three weeks paid vacation? I should have asked. Stan

flying belgian · Jun 30, 2015

I don't know about the vacation but I just heard Obam wants you to be paid time and half. So you will get 50% more money this year.

Mark-Mi · Jun 30, 2015

Chief, you probably need to be on their payroll because what ever you charge them they are going to double it.

Chris(WA) · Jun 30, 2015

Stan,
Prepare yourself.
I bet that next you will be asked to get a drug test, a physical, submit copies of your drivers license, driving record, proof of insurance, prove you are a citizen of the USA, file a W-9 and a W-2 form, receive and sign you acceptance of the employee hand book, the companies IIPP manual, swear an allegiance and sign in blood...three times... Other than the last two (which you swear you are doing when you read and sign some of the other forms) that is what it takes to get hired for a company I know of that will remain nameless.
SOP in the modern world...

mattwillson · Jun 30, 2015

What'll probably happen next that, they'll let you go because your over qualified.

Paul from MI · Jun 30, 2015

I'm 72 also, and the thought of filling out all that paperwork scares the wadding out of me. I'll just do the work and forget it.

glennster · Jun 30, 2015

Its probably for the companys work comp insurance. If you are on their payroll, you are under their coverage. As a sub contractor, if you do not have work comp, the employer has to buy a separate policy for the subcontractot.

Wheatfarmer · Jun 30, 2015

Think like the Gov does when filling out the ap. I think you could have some fun with it. Post a copy if you do.

CenTex Farmall · Jun 30, 2015

In addition to those add official college transcripts, medical exam by company employed medical dept (including chest x-rays), fingerprinting and FBI background check and psych exam for a nameless place I worked at.

Geo-TH,In · Jul 1, 2015

Stan,
The IRS is putting a stop to tax cheats. They are cutting down on sub-contractors, 1099. There are 20 things you have to prove to be a sub-contractor. When the unemployment money ran out there was a greater intensive to stop tax cheats. Employers claiming to use subs were getting around paying state and federal unemployment taxes and their share of SS taxes. I'm no CPA, but those who are can sound off on the tax angle and what uncle sam is doing about it.

Before I fill out a job application, I will go outside my house and bang my head against the brick wall untill the urge to go back to work goes away. Been retired for 11 years, 66, and never had to get close to the brick wall.

Texasmark1 · Jul 1, 2015

Stan sir,

More on the tax thing. Do you prepare your taxes? If so, have you ever played with the SS tax numbers? If not, one day when you have nothing to do you might be interested in just what extra income costs you when on SS. It puts you immediately in the 30+% tax bracket (for the extra money you earned) not counting any payroll SS taxes that you may be paying, especially if you are working as a contractor, and income taxes and all. Time you figure that in would push it on up to around 50% in Federal taxes for that part time job.

Then you consider wear and tear on stuff that you use and something always breaks and on and on. To each his own, but I don't see how it pays.

Geo-TH,In · Jul 1, 2015

When I signed up for SS at age 66, SS told me I could go back to work and not pay a penality. I would still get a cpa's opinion.

Also there are some incomes like interest, rental income, that have nothing to do with SS.

GeneMO · Jul 1, 2015

(quoted from post at 03:21:28 07/01/15) Stan,
The IRS is putting a stop to tax cheats. They are cutting down on sub-contractors, 1099. There are 20 things you have to prove to be a sub-contractor. When the unemployment money ran out there was a greater intensive to stop tax cheats. Employers claiming to use subs were getting around paying state and federal unemployment taxes and their share of SS taxes. I'm no CPA, but those who are can sound off on the tax angle and what uncle sam is doing about it.

Before I fill out a job application, I will go outside my house and bang my head against the brick wall untill the urge to go back to work goes away. Been retired for 11 years, 66, and never had to get close to the brick wall.

GeneMO · Jul 1, 2015

(quoted from post at 03:21:28 07/01/15) Stan,
The IRS is putting a stop to tax cheats. They are cutting down on sub-contractors, 1099. There are 20 things you have to prove to be a sub-contractor. When the unemployment money ran out there was a greater intensive to stop tax cheats. Employers claiming to use subs were getting around paying state and federal unemployment taxes and their share of SS taxes. I'm no CPA, but those who are can sound off on the tax angle and what uncle sam is doing about it.

Before I fill out a job application, I will go outside my house and bang my head against the brick wall untill the urge to go back to work goes away. Been retired for 11 years, 66, and never had to get close to the brick wall.

That is why I hire Amish. I cap their pay at $500, cash. Then I hire another batch. There is a whole group of em willing to work (for cash)

Gene

Gene

NoNewParts · Jul 2, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:25:56 06/30/15) Stan,
Prepare yourself.
I bet that next you will be asked to get a drug test, a physical, submit copies of your drivers license, driving record, proof of insurance, prove you are a citizen of the USA, file a W-9 and a W-2 form, receive and sign you acceptance of the employee hand book, the companies IIPP manual, swear an allegiance and sign in blood...three times... Other than the last two (which you swear you are doing when you read and sign some of the other forms) that is what it takes to get hired for a company I know of that will remain nameless.
SOP in the modern world...

.......and don't forget the forms and interviews to make sure you are a 'team' player......in spite of the fact that most of the jobs at the place are solitary and talking to co-workers except at break times is strictly forbidden.....lol

Texasmark1 · Jul 2, 2015

Line 3 of the SS benefits worksheet picks up all those types of non "wages subject to taxation" incomes so yes you don't necessarioy have to cough up the 7 1/2 or 15% (or whatever the current rate is for employee/self employed) SS tax but are still income and affect the amount of your SS benefit payments (to you....line 20a) that are added to your income (line 20b) for your Total Income amount on line 22 of the 1040.

The reply had to do with haying for someone else and that's wages subject to taxation be it employee (supply form W-2), self employed, or contract labor (both require 1040 Schedule SE) and not of the type you mention unless your rental income falls under self employed income. Renting houses IS a business whether you want to call it that or not. Interest is just that, interest, either taxable or tax exempt for the purpose of the 1040 line 22.

On what your SS rep said, wellllllllllllllllll.

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