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Nick167 · May 20, 2015

I had a new job offered to me its to brush hog this place around the corner from me using there equipment which is an 8ft brush hog anda massey Ferguson that's about 15 years old it needs done once a month and he said it takes about 20 hours to mow I could make up my own schedule on how much I do at a time the first time he's going to pay me hourly then after just pay me for doing it he said for me to come with an idea of how I want so what's a good rate to tell him?
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Greg1959 · May 20, 2015

Nick- using his equipment and you driving the tractor. Using farm labor laws, I would say $3.00 to $4.00 an hour.

Nick167 · May 20, 2015

All right that doesn't seem to bad then sorry about that link it just kinda appeared I just tried and it doesn't go anywhere

Robert Major · May 20, 2015

Hi
From the 3-$4 an hour as suggested below I think I'd hook that field to the tractor and drag it to Manitoba Canada. Minimum wage for anybody is around $11.00 an hour, and farm guys are $14 upwards depending on experience with what you can operate, and if you got a class one licence or any mechanical experience on top. It seems crazy to me that a guy would work a 40 hour week on a farm for $160 a week. For $4 an hour you couldn't get me out the house to do anything on a farm not even drive a tractor cutting the lawn, at that price no wonder there are a load of broke Americans around the U.S.A !!!!!!.
Regards Robert

Bob Harvey · May 20, 2015

WHAT ??? !!! Are you nutz ? My cat makes more than that !

super99 · May 20, 2015

$3 to $4/ hour??? That isn't worth the gas to drive over there, you would be better off going to McDonald's and working there. I'd say at least $10/hour unless you are really hurting for cash or he has a cute daughter your trying to date. Yea, anyone can drive a tractor and mower, BUT an experienced operator that knows what he is doing and can take care of the equipment is cheaper than the repairs and downtime fixing what the inexperienced operator can tear up. Your call. Chris

jimg.allentown · May 20, 2015

OK, using your logic:
Driving a tractor-trailer: Using the company's equipment, fuel, toll money, etc. What should a driver be paid? Average driver makes over $40,000 a year or more under these conditions. That figures out to about $20/hour.

Working at McDonald's: Again, using their equipment, food, air conditioning in summer and heat in winter. Burger flipper makes around $9.00/hour.

Minimum wage for ANY worker in the USA is around $7.50/hour. Again, using the employer's equipment, fuel, etc.

Are you beginning to see the fault in your logic? How DARE you suggest that a working man work for $3 to $4 per hour?!?!?!?!?!?! Mr. Lincoln freed the slaves - and even they were better paid than you suggest.

ss55 · May 20, 2015

In 1970?

Bryce Frazier · May 20, 2015

Hey Nick,

When I was working at the neighbors, I started out at $12 an hour, and that was 7 - 3, 4 days a week. I did that for 2013 and 2014, this year I was going to $15, and that is nothing around here for a GOOD/GREAT farm hand!

Whether I was swathing hay, chasing horses, or fixing fence, both me AND the employer thought that $15 was fair.

To me, if I was hiring you, I would expect to pay you $12 or so. Not sure a "rookie" (please take no offense, but until you prove yourself to this guy, you are kind of a rookie).

I think you will like it. Takes a little bit of concentration... Bryce

Greg1959 · May 20, 2015

Bryce Frazier- I admire your 'spunk'! but, keep in mind(you were 14 to 15 years old in 2014) most youth at that age would dream of a job paying $12.00 per hour. Heck, in my area I know many adults that would like to earn that!

Good for you and I am glad you found something you enjoy doing.

Wheatfarmer · May 20, 2015

I have help several different farmers around here putting up hay. Their Equipment. 12-15 per hour. With haying we work when the hay was ready. might be 10am-10pm. If needed would do shop work before or after the hay was ready. Never knew what the hours might be. Colorado. If DeltaRed needs help I will work for food. You need to also consider "Contract labor".

Greg1959 · May 20, 2015

jimg.allentown- I agree with you.

The point of my post was bring out the use of illegal migrants to pick crops at low wages by certain farmers. I see it here, all the way up into Kentucky.

Could I hire someone for the mentioned for $3 to $4 an hour...YES. Would I trust them to know how to use/take care of my equipment...maybe/probably not.

So, YES, I can hire them @$3-4/ hour.

Greg1959 · May 20, 2015

jimg.allentown- "Mr. Lincoln freed the slaves - and even they were better paid than you suggest.".

Do you really think that jimg.allentown?

Eldon (WA) · May 20, 2015

(quoted from post at 18:54:38 05/20/15) I had a new job offered to me its to brush hog this place around the corner from me using there equipment which is an 8ft brush hog anda massey Ferguson that's about 15 years old it needs done once a month and he said it takes about 20 hours to mow I could make up my own schedule on how much I do at a time the first time he's going to pay me hourly then after just pay me for doing it he said for me to come with an idea of how I want so what's a good rate to tell him?
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There are very few people I would trust with my tractor and 8' Bush Hog. Your neighbor is very brave.....

K Effective · May 21, 2015

My younger son works at the local country club on grounds crew, mowing, weed whip, loader tractor, chain saw, whatever. He makes $9.50/hr plus free golf (worth about $ 20K/yr to him)

Older son got summer pharmacy tech job for big grocery chain making $10.50/ hr. He enters pharmacy school in the fall and doesn't have to break a sweat this way...

I usually try to give them about $10/hr cash when I beg for haying help

mtny · May 21, 2015

Most of the migrants I've been around make 10 to 12 bucks an hour. Most of the larger dairies in this area even include housing .

Traditional Farmer · May 21, 2015

How much are you worth as an operator? If you will check out the fluid levels,take care of the equipment in general,operate the equipment in a safe way that keeps from tearing it up then I can't imagine you not being worth $15/hr and if you're not worth $15/hr I wouldn't want you operating my equipment.I don't want any of Greg1959 $4hr operators any where near my equipment.

jimg.allentown · May 21, 2015

In any case, the point that I was trying to make is that it is not reasonable to expect someone to work for 3 or 4 dollars an hour - migrant worker or not and no matter whose equipment. That is simply not realistic or legal.
Some more reality:

An average house in an average location costs over $100,000 on average.
A decent new car is hitting $30,000
A fair meal in a diner will cost $12 to $20 plus tip.
Even a burger, fries and drink at the local puke'n'choke will cost you $10.
$3 won't even get you a bus ticket across town - let alone leave enough to send to the folks "back home"

dhermesc · May 21, 2015

I don't know where you are but most illegals I know command as high or higher wages than "legals". In construction that's $15-$25 an hour - they get it because they'll work.

dhermesc · May 21, 2015

Agreed - no one will work for that - they can make much more on welfare.

Bryce Frazier · May 21, 2015

Yes, you are TOTALLY right! I know adults here that drag there feet and get $7.25 an hour!

Around here, IF you are a hard worker, doing a somewhat demanding job, people are willing to pay a little more, just if nothing else for the assurance that they have a competent employe.

Another thing to keep in mind, is that our pot smoking neighbors, Washington, are trying to raise the MINIMUM wage to I THINK $15 an hour??!?! It is at 11 or 12 now! Total bs....

Dave Sherburne, NY · May 21, 2015

I bet your cat's medical plan is better than external_link care too.

dr sportster · May 21, 2015

I see an operating engineer in my area makes 38.12 per hr. The guy that wants to wortk for 3-4 bucks an hour must be on some kind of drugs.

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