2510paul question

Paul I see you have a 145 loader on your 2510. I am looking for a 145 or a 146 loader for my 2510 and really don't want a 148. What brackets do you have? I looked on the online parts book and only saw what I would commonly think of as utility brackets for say a 2240? Could you post a close picture up of the mounting frames/brackets? Do you like the 145 and have you ever had a as a comparison 148? I just think the 148's are a little much for a 2510 but every 145 or 146 I see advertised says utility brackets.

Thanks
 

The JD 145 was only designed to fit utility tractors not rowcrops. It would surprise me that because of the extra height of the 2510 side frames that the bucket on the mounted 145 will touch the ground although it must do so. A photo of the mounting brackets on the 2510 would be interesting to view.
 
TX there were some utility tractors sold with the HU option that would of had 36 and some maybe 38 inch rear tires so if it works on those it should work on a 2510. I think a 146 would be nice for a 2510 as a 148 is plenty big. I saw one years ago that had brackets that went under the axle and I liked that setup better than hanging it on the side frames. Tom
 
Tom
Having sold new JD 20,30 & 40 series utility I'm aware of the HU utility tractor option. I've never seen a 145 on a HU utility tractor BUT I'm not stating a 145 won't operate correctly on an HU model. And there is NO mention of rowcrop tractors in the 145 parts catalog and I"ll bet operators manual.
 
Thanks guys this one has me stumped hopefully 2510paul will have time to post some close up pics or how he acomplished putting that loader on that tractor.
 
This is Jared, 2510Paul's son. The brackets on that loader are the utility tractor brackets, but we added some beams to tie the brackets to the rear axle. before this was done, the loader seamed to flex a little bit, and would have eventually broke our the frame rail bolts. We also added a cross member to tie the two beams together under the oil an off the tractor. All the brackets bolt together so that there was not any additional stress points on the loader frames. Ill give him a call and see if he can post some pictures of the mounting.

Jared
 
Where are you located? I have a 47(?) loader that was made for the 2510 and 2520 series, and wouldn't mind parting with it. I already have two other loaders.
 
Here are some overall pictures of the 145 loader on the 2510. I felt the 148 loader was big for this tractor so I went with the 145. I think a 146 might have been a little better but this is what I found locally.

As I recall I had to re-drill some of the holes in the mounting bracket to get the torque tube to clear the front nose the way I wanted it to. It has been some time, I cannot recall if the standard holes in the bracket caused the torque tube to interfere with the front nose, was too far away, or I was just being picky.

I did very little bucket work with this loader so I cannot comment on the ability to go below ground level when the bucket is flat. Thinking about it I don't think there is a problem. The pins at the arm ends come within a couple inches of the ground and of course the bucket pin holes are a couple inches off the ground when flat.

I use this setup for round bales. It works great, but when staking three I had always wished I had a little more height although I made it work. I think the 146 would have helped that, and the 148 would certainly help that.

I originally put this loader on a 2520, just mounted to the frame rails. I felt this was putting a lot of stress on those frame rails. I also read other posts at the time that made the same comment and recommended a connection to the rear axle and a cross brace underneath. I did this and what a difference it made. It just felt like the loader was so much more rigidly mounted to the tractor. Especially when traveling over rough ground with a round bale you could tell the rear axle was participating in handling the torque being applied to the tractor.

These picture will be the best looking pictures because they were taken just after we restored this 2510 and painted both it and the loader. I will post more close up pictures.

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donjr, your post made me recall I have a brochure calling out "Manure-Handling Equipment". The 47 (compatible with 1020, 2020, and 2510) and 46A (2510, 3020, and 4020) loaders are shown as compatible with the 2510. The 46A has a frame that appears to wrap around the front and goes to the back axle. A friend of mine has a 46A on his 2520 and has used it for many years. If you want me to scan either page let me know. The pages have a picture and specifications. Paul
 
Here's a great set of pictures on how I mounted the loader. Notice the beam going back to the rear axle is two rectangular tubes. One is shorter to accommodate the fender bolts which also connect that beam to the axle housing.

Paul
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The one I have came off of a 2520. It's a quick tach that has a block on the front side of the tractor and another near the clutch housing, and rotates into them. There is also a small top sway block that bolts onto the rear of the engine to stiffen the top of the mast. Easy to put on, and easy to take off....
 
Ok, one more set. Brochure specifications on 47 and 46A loaders.

Let me know if you have any questions. I hope this all helps.

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THANK YOU that is exactly what I wanted to see and know. I am with you I think that the 148 is a bit much for a 2510 and that is why I was looking for a 145 or 146. I would mainly use it for a spear but still would need to use a bucket some. Another reason i do not want a 148 is the fact I would need to take my weights off ond on when I needed to mount the loader. With a 145 0r 146 I can leave the weights on. If it's not too much trouble if I get one of these could you send me some measurements of your new and improved braces and where you drilled the new holes? I really love this 2510 of mine. I was looking for a 3020 at the time and kind of fell into this one and glad I did. I actually wish I had another but my next purchase will need to be more hp like a 4230. I only wish I had a powershift since I bale a lot. These tractors are so nimble and balanced really well. I just OH mine last fall and put new tires on it. My rops and canopy will be going on in a few weeks. I cover a lot of hay ground with mine I run 7 ft NH disc mower, a 540 hesston round baler and a jd338 square baler. My son on the 430W does all of the raking and tedding. He wants to drive the 2510 becasue the 430 doesn't have power steering. I told him he could get power steering as soon as I get a cab and air. Again thanks for the pics that really clears things up.
 
2510paul/
I think you did an excellent job fabricating & mounting the loader.
148/158 & 168 loaders had a brace across under engine similar to what Paul showed

If one will look closely the loader mounting brackets set lower on the side frames than they were designed to do by JD engineers to help compensate for the 2510 being higher off the ground than the utility tractors. On utility tractor the mounting frames would be even with tractor side frames
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Yes, if you need anything please let me know. It would be easy to get you sizes of the main items. As I recall there were three overriding goals I had.

1. The beam between the front loader bracket and the axle had to be neutral, that is, no torque on the front loader frame as a result of the beam bolting to the axle when the loader is unloaded. I hope this made sense.

2. I did not want any welds at the point where the beam passes under the rear of the front loader bracket. I was concerned varying and shock loads on the loader, e.g. round bales and running over rough ground, would crack the welds over time. As you can see I used a very large angle and bolted it.

3. And it can all be put back to original if desired.

So far it has worked. After several years or hauling/loading/unloading round bales it all has held together.

Paul
 
(quoted from post at 15:14:38 05/01/15) Wow, great observation and comment. I never realized that. Thanks. Paul.

Paul
If you had mounted &/or supervised the mounting of as many JD loaders as I then that observation would have come easily. Plus I was interested in the photos of your loader mounts because of the fact the 2510 has higher ground clearance than most JD utility tractors of that era
Jim
 

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