About that C50 Chevy...

Dave H (MI) · Apr 22, 2015

The seller and I have come to a resolution. I sat down and did the math. I need a truck and I want to pay "X". This truck is a near perfect match but I am not going to get it for "X". So I could wait until I find a comparable truck for something close to "X", but may be a long wait. Meanwhile I have some immediate, cannot wait under any circumstances, work to be done that requires the truck. If I hire out the work to someone else the cost is going to be "Y". Now if I take what I want to pay for the truck and box (X) and add (Y) to it, well....X+Y is a number the seller will accept and we have a deal. I am out no more than I would be anyway in the long run, will have the truck on the farm this weekend to start doing the work I need done on MY schedule, seller is happy....seems like a good deal for everyone. Much appreciate all the excellent help!

We are currently arranging insurance and a plate, I have talked to Tom O'Conner and he has agreed to complete the transaction this weekend. Gives me time to do the preliminaries. After prolonged negotiations, I think we both did OK.

Allan in NE · Apr 22, 2015

That truck is for damned sure what he is asking....just sayin'

Allan

Mike M · Apr 22, 2015

Something is only worth what you can get for it ! END of story.

Got to be a limited amount of buyers for something like that. I noticed how everyone said it is worth this or that much or more but did they lay the money down ?

I'm glad you could come to an agreement.

rrlund · Apr 22, 2015

I just read the original post. I'm with you on thinking it sounds a little on the high side for what they've been bringing around here.
I hauled milk with a 72 C50. Good truck except for when the crank broke. It had a 350 in it and that was the second time for the crank. It broke one time when Jerry was driving it. It ended up with a new motor the second time.
That truck ended up being sold to a local fire department for a water tanker when I was done with it.

Steve@Advance · Apr 22, 2015

I don't think you paid too much, that low mileage doesn't come around often. Wondering though, has the truck been running or stored for a while? If it's bees sitting, keep a close watch on the fluids, especially the brakes. Anything that old will be needing some seals and hoses, regardless of the miles. Probably best if you drive it first before turning it loose with the hired help!

Dave H (MI) · Apr 22, 2015

Yeah...I know. I would put the truck itself, mileage or no, at around $2-2500 if it were at one of the high end auctions. The box on the truck is a really nice one, not the usual boards or plywood. I checked on the box with the manufacturer and Tom was correct, it is expensive. So I have a truck and a really nice box. Using my cost figures from the last few years and given that I have a lot more truck-hours planned for 2015 than in the past, I am expecting the truck to pay back about half it's cost this first year. I think it likely it will do that with little more than a tuneup. All that factors into value. My other truck is a '76 Chevy C20 PU and it has had it's issues but man, what a work horse. Same color as this truck...orange (sorry, "Chevy red").

1130Leo · Apr 22, 2015

Glad you could come to an agreement. Too bad you are not closer to Lexington, Mich. That truck could benefit greatly from Krown Rust Control, spray that entire truck with that oil once a year and that truck will last for another 50 years.

DoubleR · Apr 22, 2015

I've been thinking about that deal all day. I don't know the seller personally although I know of him. I worked a little bit for his brother many years ago. I think he's a fair person and just wanted what he felt was a fair price for his truck. It seemed like he was getting a little beat-up on here last night.
I'm glad you was able to come to an agreement on said truck. I don't think you'll go wrong with the deal.

coonie minnie · Apr 22, 2015

I have to say I felt the same way. If it were me, I'd have been very frustrated as the seller.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 22, 2015

Definitely better I go up in a fireball than the help!!! Thing is the seller replaced the master cylinder last week because the brakes were out. I will be looked at the lines and will be testing the emergency brakes to make sure thats available. I'll look at the hoses and belts before I take off. One of the good points on this truck is that it is about 30 miles from it's new home. Once we get thru Linden I can take it down gravel at a slow pace. Re-check everything when we get to the fields and see did it stay up on fluids then put her in the barn for the weekend. All goes well Monday I will try a light load in the bed and see how it goes. That will be the true test of the tires. On the C20 PU I ended up replacing all the tires the first month. All original, plenty of tread, but they had lost their rounded shape and the truck was kinda duck footed. Odd looking, hard to explain...they had to go. Hope that doesn't happen here. Those 9.50R16's were pricey.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 22, 2015

I agree with you both, although I don't think he was getting treated too badly on the forum and it was definitely a two way street. I had to call his wife today and get pictures e-mailed for my insurance company. I introduced myself to her by saying..."this is Dave H, Tom and I have been beating each other up about a truck the past two weeks". We have been. It was a hard negotiation and an even harder decision to complete the sale. She seemed amused. He is getting a good price for his truck. I was pretty frustrated at times too but no harm done.

cole in mo. · Apr 22, 2015

In the first post you said the engine ran rough, if its the 350 V8, you can expect to be replacing the cam and lifters, it may already need it.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 22, 2015

Yes, I know about that. I had to replace the cam and lifters on the C20 in the first year. Did not happen until the 60K mileage mark though. This truck has a ways to go. There is also a noise associated with it. I did not hear that noise. I know the noise well because it half scared me to death on the C20. Stopped into a service place in Brighton and was told they would take out the whole engine and replace it with a rebuilt. Wanted my engine (60K miles) for a core. I said yeah...right...don't hold your breathe. Had a fella I know look at it and we replaced the k-rappy Chevy shaft with the rounded over cams with a new one. Was not a big deal. Unbelievable the wear on those cams though.

Mark-Mi · Apr 22, 2015

You did not say. But if your haulin sand for your new barn this weekend be careful. Farm trucks were not designed or built like dump trucks.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 22, 2015

I'm not getting that. Can you be more specific? Reason I ask is that I asked about this when I first started getting serious about a truck. I specified on this forum what I wanted it to do and the seller of this truck came along and said he had just the thing. Others chimed in also. The first time I drove one of these trucks it was a tanker in the FD. Plenty weight there. I have seen the same truck with a dump truck box on it. The truck has dual cylinder hoist and a heavy steel box. How does the same amount of weight in sand vs corn make a difference? Confused, but I appreciate the tip and will be alert.

Mark-Mi · Apr 22, 2015

Dave, I sent you a message.

notjustair · Apr 22, 2015

Around here the price was right on the money. Straight trucks hold their value like crazy in this part of Kansas. It will be a good truck for you. One thing to watch for (you know what you are doing but I have to say it) - when you are hauling for your new shed make dang sure you are on nice level land when you raise the hoist. At the elevator it is always on level cement. With a dual hoist box you have to make sure it is on level ground before raising. If there isn't a limiter in the system it will push one cylinder faster than the other and twist the bed and the whole deal ends up on its side. Remember that nothing flows as well as grain. You will run the hoist up a long ways before it starts moving and then it goes all at once. It doesn't pay to overbalance a nice tuck like that. You will get a brown stain all over the pristine seat.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 22, 2015

Got it, thanks!

coonie minnie · Apr 22, 2015

Just keep in mind 8 ton of sand, gravel or dirt is a lot smaller pile than 8 ton of corn. A gravel box on that truck would be shorter, and the sides no more than about 18" tall. That way it doesn't get overloaded.

CenTex Farmall · Apr 22, 2015

The best deals are where both parties come away with a smile. A grand more or less isn't going to wreck anyone.
You found something that'll work and can keep moving the ball forward. That's what counts.

peachhead · Apr 22, 2015

Great deal, looked like a really good truck to me. Trucks hold their value really well here too. Someone told me long ago that the definition of a good deal is that both parties got what they wanted out of it and nobody got taken advantage of. Sounds like that is what happened here and I'm glad to hear it.

I also learned a while back that if you see something you really like then you are probably better off to get it, else everything else you buy will be compared to it from then on and you will always wonder.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 23, 2015

Now there is something I didn't really know! The cylinder part, I mean. I would not park it crossways on a slope and raise the center of gravity. The lay of the ground down the long sides of the shed is such that it drops about 3' on the 100' length of the building. Doesn't look like it but you can see it from the foundation line and I bet you could feel it if you parked wrong and tried to dump. I wonder if this is what Mark is talking about. I'll have to give him a call and find out.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 23, 2015

Honestly, that is the way I am. Like you read my mind. I really liked this truck which is why I stayed after Tom on the negotiations. He's an older guy, tells you what he wants, doesn't move much after that. Doesn't want to hear any arguments to the contrary. Not my favorite way to make a purchase but at least now I will not have to spend the next couple months second guessing my decision. I'm happy this way.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 23, 2015

Yup...agreed! And I slept like a baby last night. That hasn't happened in a while.

massey 333 · Apr 23, 2015

Just in our area alone,a dozen or more of grain trucks with those dual ram hoists have twisted and upset trucks dumping wet grain while setting on level ground or on concrete.There are stabilizers being offered to prevent this from happening.

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