How To Deal With Water Under House

Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• Apr 13, 2015

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Water has always flows under house its built on the side of a hill. As far as I know its never been a issue my dad knocked a hole on the bottom side for it to exit. With a wet winter the ground is still saturated. I am running a natural gas line to my shop (right now its a EZ dig) and had to locate 9 different underground lines. It took me 8 hr. to find and dig under water lines, sewer, phone, electrical and cable lines that have been run to different buildings...

As I did water comes out of the ground even 100 ft from the house as you can see once I get past the top soil its clay... I am thinking to my self I found out I am still man enough still to work a shovel... I may miss a good opportunity...

There are only a few more things to locate around the house and I know zackly were they are at...

What can I do help get the underground water to drain away from the house. Somehow I should be able to put in a underground drain system to get the water to drain away from the house...

I got this to finish out the rest

The Natural gas folks have told me for years they would hook my shop to NG they have came out and marked it a few times but never came back... I had a tank less gas water heater install and the underground line going into the meter was leaking. They told me if I locate all my underground stuff and did the trench they would run the line no charge... I do want to get off the bottle (LP)

 

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David G

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• Apr 13, 2015

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Trench down 3' all the way around an put a tile in, water under anything structural is bad.

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• Apr 13, 2015

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Whuts tile... Through me a bone...

 

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David G

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• Apr 13, 2015

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http://www.thetoolworkshop.com/advanceddrainagesy3x100solidpipe351-100.aspx

 

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David G

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• Apr 13, 2015

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Put tile down 3', bed it in 3/4" clean rock and put a foot of it on top.

 

onefarmer

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6735 S Lowell Rd, St Johns, Mi 48879

• Apr 13, 2015

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Here I'm putting in some tile next to a fence line. You have a trencher....

 

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notjustair

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• Apr 13, 2015

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You need to berm the uphill side and get water to drain around the house not under it.

 

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GarryinNC

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• Apr 13, 2015

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Hobo,
What is your crawl space like? Wet/Damp? Any mold? Does the water come to the top of the ground under the house? Just wondering.

I am a few counties west of you, in Davie County, between Statesville and Winston-Salem. I always enjoy your posts.

Garry

 

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big fred

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• Apr 13, 2015

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Somebody stole all the rocks outa your dirt.

 

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retired farmer

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• Apr 14, 2015

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They probably don't want to be responsible in case something happens to the line in all that water. Surprised the house hasn't sunk a foot or two.

 

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greg oliver

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• Apr 14, 2015

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I have installed pipe and stone around the house at the footer and a pump if you can't drain to daylight. If you can get an elevation shot of the footer and a spot near the house that you can drain to you need about 2 inches of drop in 10 feet. We are on a project right now that water is a problem and here is some pic's of another job we did. The 2 pics were of a couple fields I drained with only a 1/2 inch of pitch in 10 feet using only a small excavator.

 

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VicS

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Location

SE Il.

• Apr 14, 2015

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A long time back my Dads house was that way. He trenched 6 ft. Deep all the
way around it. Never getting closer than 6 ft and as far away as 16 ft .Was a
8 in trench. 4 in plastic tile. Back filled to the top of ground with river
gravel. Worked. Didn't cost much. He had a partial basement.

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• Apr 14, 2015

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(quoted from post at 09:33:45 04/14/15) Hobo,
What is your crawl space like? Wet/Damp? Any mold? Does the water come to the top of the ground under the house? Just wondering.

I am a few counties west of you, in Davie County, between Statesville and Winston-Salem. I always enjoy your posts.

Garry

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I don't have a mold issue it will dry up and I need to get this done before June are I will need dynamite to shove dig.... I have a dozer and a excavator coming to clean out stumps on a lot I cleared... I am going to call the gas Co and get this issue taken care of while I am in shape to dig and have the funds...

I got another problem that's going to be taken care of the band under the front door is gone There is no roof over the front stoop never has been and water is a issue there also. Maybe I need to call This Old House to do a show on this,,,

 

Geo-TH,In

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• Apr 14, 2015

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I'm surprised your building inspectors allowed you to build there. How does your
septic work with water that close to the surface? Water only runs down hill. You need
to find a place to run the water too. Looks like you have good clay that holds the
water too.

In 08 we got 10 inches in 24 hours. All the water in a 40 acre field came towards the
house. No way drain tile can handle all that water. I too have clay. I worked for
weeks moving dirt so water could not run towards the house again. I had an old gravel
pit I could drain my water too. Had to move tons of dirt. Now when it rains I can look
out the window and see the river system I made. Basement stays dry now.

You can put in a well and pipe your water to California where they need it.

 

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Bryan inIowa

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• Apr 14, 2015

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Now that gave me flashbacks to my basement project ! lol

 

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NoNewParts

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• Apr 14, 2015

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like said, the cheap drain tile helps a lot with water migrating underground. The water will find it. easiest path thing.
I use the style with the slots in it.(TSC or any home store will have it in 100 or 250' rolls.)

Above your house, a french drain would help too.
(just a ditch with washed crushed stone in it)
They need to be kept clean to work best, so making them
look like a 'walkway' works good.

Where looks aren't important a berm helps too.
Take a walk around during a heavy downpour.
Watch where the water 'wants' to go.
Ya can't argue with water and gravity, but ya can 'steer' it a bit.
Berms...get rid of the topsoil and use your clay. after a year, it will behave like concrete.

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• Apr 14, 2015

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It was built in 63 and should have been farther up the hill. I think my dad built it were it is because my granddad farmed all this land except were the house set's...

Septic system well none work good around here I have a ell of a long drain field :wink: What I have built here is on a high pad... The guy that did the work knew how to get the water away from my shop...

 

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mkirsch

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• Apr 14, 2015

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If it's not a problem, best off to leave it alone, but if you insist:

On a basement foundation, you would dig down to the footer and bury perforated drainage tile in stone leading around and away from the foundation. You'd probably do something similar with a slab.

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• Apr 14, 2015

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3/4 of the back was done that way when I added the addition in 2011 I brought a building permit and it was inspected....

Tar, pipe, felt and gravel... I have thoughts of tearing out the back pouch built on a slab and redoing it... I am into it now no need to put it off....

 

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El Toro

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• Apr 14, 2015

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I had this drainage system installed about 20 years ago. My downspouts empty into it too. It drains to the street. Hal

 

onefarmer

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Location

6735 S Lowell Rd, St Johns, Mi 48879

• Apr 14, 2015

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Oh there is lots of little ones and in the 500ft of tile I laid I had to stop and dig out about 10 12" rocks.

 

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Billy NY

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• Apr 14, 2015

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I was just thinking that! LOL, looks like the same kind of job, great when done, but getting there is a lot of fun LOL !

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• Apr 14, 2015

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I am leaning that way... My grader man showed up today and agreed... I have a 3 acre front yard that's a bottom in a V looks like a good place for a pond and would cut down on the mow'N time...

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• May 5, 2015

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It finally dried out enough to get the ditch dug for the Natural gas line to the shop... While i was waiting I got every thing located for the french drain...

 

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shunkfarm

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• May 5, 2015

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Hey onefarmer, what make is that tile machine? I have never seen one made for a tractor! How does the tractor go slow enough?
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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• May 9, 2015

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Cook'N with Natural gas in the shop...

On to the french drain

There's to much chit in the ground here

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• May 12, 2015

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Worked all day dig'N and rap'N up all the stuff I have to cross to put in the french drain.. I have 75% of it dug up The guy that owns the Hoe showed up and took the wheel out of my hands :shock: He can pick you pocket with the hoe he's a master using it...

I have 3 more things to cross and locate a sewer line hopefully I can get most of it doen tomorrow...

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• May 13, 2015

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Nutter day nother lost dollar...
One more day and I will have the hard work over with at least on the back of the house. I an going to do this to the front maybe next year are in the fall. There's only one thing in the front to locate and that's a water line.

I had to locate and dig up 9 different things in the ground some of them had to dig and locate 2 to 4 times...

Like this one I almost forgot about sewer from the shop to the house tank... Here we go crossing cable TV to the shop and Cable internet to the shop again.

Another obstetrical the gas co. relocated there gas line to the house while I was at it. They dropped it in my trench and ran it inside a plastic pipe. It did run under the porch...

French drain pipe in and coverd now on to the gutter drains. I am adding clean out to the french drain and gutter drains.

And some more fun stuff to deal with gutter drains.

 

WI Dan

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Location

Northern Wisconsin, Price County

• May 14, 2015

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wow...wadda project ye got there man!

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• May 14, 2015

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Got the Gutter drains and clean outs in and topped off with gravel... Running gutter drains in hard pipe is a MF'er...
Gutter and french drain pipe is a all PVC with clean outs for the next guy if needed...

So far used about 22 tons of gravel I spec it gonna take 30 tons I got 42 tons I can store the left over gravel for my next project that should begin next week... I could not have picked a better time to do this its been wet a wet winter once I started the rain gods have been good to me (Not much Rain but its is getting dry)

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• May 16, 2015

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Dunno who it was that said you could use old carpet THANKS for the tip. I ran out of fabric , I did not need a whole roll so cut up some old carpet to finish up the job... I got it all covered up today It was a 14hr day so no pix... Well I did take one... I decided to make a gravel walk from the front to the back of the house on top of the french drain...

 

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Hobo,NC

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Location

Sanford, NC

• Nov 1, 2015

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Wanted to add a update and tell Y'all how well the french drain worked out... Its the first time I can remember NO water under the house... A pix before the grass turns brown... Part of this deal was to relocate the old natural gas line and run a new line to my shop. Last month the gas folks showed up and ran a new line from the highway to were I connected to the old line. If they would have done this before I dug up the place it would have saved me allot of work :twisted:

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JMOR

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Location

TX

• Nov 1, 2015

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I'll call that a massive undertaking! Good job!