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J. Schwiebert · Apr 3, 2015

Randy just reading in today's paper hauling manure on frozen ground is now a thing of the past. This is all due to the algae in the water in Toledo last summer. I don't know how they are going to handle farmers like the Amish and people that have just a few head like for $-H and FFA project. Another old farming tradition of hauling manure in the winter is now history.

rrlund · Apr 3, 2015

I was just talking to a guy about that yesterday. It's in the Lake Erie watershed isn't it? It won't be long before it's the whole Great Lakes watershed without a doubt. I don't know the details,whether it only applies to operations with more than a certain number of "animal units" or if it's everybody. Building a concrete retaining structure to hold an entire winters worth would be cost prohibitive for sure.

I remember being at a milk co-op meeting 20 years or more ago when a member of the state resolutions committee said that hauling manure on frozen ground would soon be a thing of the past. I guess we've stretched it out longer than he thought we would.

Mike(NEOhio) · Apr 3, 2015

I can remember about 30 years ago reading something about not spreading when the ground is frozen or there was snow cover. But I don't remember if it was a rule or a proposal at the time. When Dad was milking he cleaned the barn and spread manure daily.

LSaunders · Apr 3, 2015

There's been a state law banning manure spreading on frozen ground here in Vermont for 5 to 10 years (I don't remember what year it went into effect.) It takes effect every year in December and ends in April, I think on the tenth. It came about to try and cut down on algae in Lake Champlain. They're still tightening the screws on farm runoff, the legislature just passed more rules for livestock operations. Makes me glad I'm out of livestock and only doing hay for horses.

Dave H (MI) · Apr 3, 2015

They might want to have a look at those overly green lawns around the lake as well as the more questionable septic fields. These "lawn nuts" with monthly applications of chemicals are abusing a lot more acres around the average lake than the ranches and farms.

donjr · Apr 3, 2015

Here in Maryland, we haven't been able to spread from November to March for some years now. They had some algae blooms over in a river on the eastern shore and it lead to the suspicion that all of the chicken manure was causing it. But, ya gotta admit, they have been paying for some really nice manure pits for a while now, and they're getting fancier all the time.

The one thing they still haven't addressed, though, is the millions of geese- both snows and Canadas- that crap all over the place while they're gorging themselves on winter wheat......

showcrop · Apr 4, 2015

About 12 years ago the farm where I hung out as a kid augmented their three on farm manure lagoons with a much bigger one about ten miles away in the next state. There is usually federal cost sharing dollars available to pay for a good chunk of it.

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