Ford 861 vs IH 424

LJS30 · Mar 28, 2015

For discing and weed trimming which one would you gentlemen choose as your weapon of choice?

Bob · Mar 28, 2015

I can't comment on the 861, but I have a 424 diesel, and it's been a good, tuff tractor.

It's a real nice running powerful little engine.

I wish it had factory power steering, it has an aftermarket torque generator setup that isn't quite right, and I've never taken the time to fully figure out why.

A downside is that it has an outdated (even for it's time) sliding gear transmission that is not great for close-quarters mowing and trimming because it shifts hard and repeatedly shifting from forward to reverse during such jobs is miserable.

The other thing I am not particularly fond of is that the PTO is engaged by a 2-stage foot clutch, push the clutch pedal halfway down and you can shift, it operated like a normal clutch, push it all the way down you can engage the PTO, which then starts as the clutch comes up to halfway.

I find that a little awkward because if you get into tough going mowing, and step on the clutch to pause for a bit it's easy to depress the clutch too far, slipping the PTO clutch and allowing the mower to slow down.

But all-in-all certainly nit a BAD tractor.

Not shure how the PTO clutch is set up on the 861, though.

GaryinKs · Mar 28, 2015

old · Mar 28, 2015

The 861 has a 2 stage clutch so it would be a lot like the 424

old · Mar 28, 2015

On a stand point of working on them I would go with the 861 Ford. Easier to work on and yes I have worked on the 801 series and the 424

Commercial Farmer · Mar 28, 2015

Ford.

Leroy · Mar 29, 2015

I would have rather have had that 2 stage clutch but the 65 uo 4,5000 had the fully independant pto and having to make a panick stop it was akward to get both tractor and pto stopped in time.

LJS30 · Apr 1, 2015

(quoted from post at 21:03:40 03/28/15) I can't comment on the 861, but I have a 424 diesel, and it's been a good, tuff tractor.

It's a real nice running powerful little engine.

I wish it had factory power steering, it has an aftermarket torque generator setup that isn't quite right, and I've never taken the time to fully figure out why.

A downside is that it has an outdated (even for it's time) sliding gear transmission that is not great for close-quarters mowing and trimming because it shifts hard and repeatedly shifting from forward to reverse during such jobs is miserable.

The other thing I am not particularly fond of is that the PTO is engaged by a 2-stage foot clutch, push the clutch pedal halfway down and you can shift, it operated like a normal clutch, push it all the way down you can engage the PTO, which then starts as the clutch comes up to halfway.

I find that a little awkward because if you get into tough going mowing, and step on the clutch to pause for a bit it's easy to depress the clutch too far, slipping the PTO clutch and allowing the mower to slow down.

But all-in-all certainly nit a BAD tractor.

Which one would you rather restore?
Not shure how the PTO clutch is set up on the 861, though.

Ford 861 vs IH 424

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