Just trying get rid of a few bales of straw

37chief

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I have some straw to get rid of before the rats and mice tear it apart. I advertised it for three dollars a bale. only sold seven. I put it on Craigs list again for two dollars. I got a few more calls, and sold a few more. This guy calls, and says I will take 16 bales. He says I don't have a pickup. I said ok I will haul them for ten dollars, I just want to get rid of them. He only lived a few miles away. He shows up I had my pickup backed to the pile ready to load them. He said he can't take them today, he needs to go the the office. I said ok when it stops raining. Then he calls today and wants to know if the straw has been grown organic. He doesn't want to contaminate his ground, because he has a organic garden. I told him it probably has been sprayed for weeds. I don't think he will be back.Stan
 
If he's certified organic he'd loose his certification if he used your straw.Also around my area many horse farms are having a hard time getting rid of manure because the herbicide in the horse hay will pass right thru the horses and kill the plants in the garden.This has been proven in several tests by the State Dept of Agriculture BTW
 
Raise you price to $9.00. it will sell better. Something that varies like straw does people figure if it is cheap, it is junk.
 
I wonder what herbicide that would be that would carry over enough to kill plants if harvest intervals where followed?

Gary
 
What herbicide will carry through an animal in hay???? I call BS on that one. Tordon will carry through but it is not used on hay fields.
 
Dow wasn't lying when it claimed aminopyralid was long lived. It survived the trip through the horse and later widely contaminated vegetable gardens when the horse manure was used.

If you want to read more, NC put up a thorough report of various herbicides and their potential problems for food crops. "Herbicide Carryover in Hay, Manure, and Grass Clippings: Caution to Hay Producers, Livestock Owners, Farmers, and Home Gardeners".
Carryover of Herbicides
 
That seems hard to believe as Dad had a dozen horses and sold 10,000 bale of hay a year all to horse people and we never heard of any garden plants dieing from manure. First you spray grass hay for weeds early in the spring when the hay is very short. Most of the plant growth comes after it is sprayed the same for small grains. The time between spray and harvest is months. Now if you applied a product right before harvest(which nobody does) you might have a problem or if you went with ten times the label rate you might have an issuse.
 
Did you read the paragraph that stated if the label instructions are followed no carry over will occur.

Gary
 

I'm just rambling here because I have no evidence one way or the other. Carryover of a herbicide might be possible if a residual is used and some garden plants like tomatoes are very sensitive to small amounts of herbicides. A residual herbicide usually kills a weed seed when the seed begins to sprout but I suppose it could be carried up into an already established plant to eaten by the horse. It would have to be a very hot herbicide to survive the digestive system of a horse in a high enough quantity to either kill garden plants or prevent the seedlings from growing.
 
The NC bulletin mentioned below refers to several herbicides used on hay. You are selling straw. Don't see how any of those sprays would have been used on wheat crop if that is wheat straw you are selling. Some chemicals listed in bulletin are generic tordon which is never sprayed on wheat crop and doubt that any of the others are either.
 
BINGO!

Use PROPERLY and in accordance with LABELED DIRECTIONS....

The fine art of linguistics.... A person can word the same exact facts to make it appear one way or another without falsifying statements. It all depends on what agenda you're trying to push. A person who's h@ll bent on pushing an "organic" agenda can make chemicals look bad by basing their "research" on test data that only includes material improperly applied.

Same logic applies if you want to make chemicals look 100% harmless.

Many of those who are 100% in favor of organics don't/won't recognize the fact that MOST farmers don't over-apply chemicals. It's simply not in their best financial interest (among other reasons)

I've read a couple studies that estimate as much as 95% of over-application of "agricultural chemicals" and fertilizers are residential and golf course related.
 
Gary, Do any guys use Roundup to try to get wheat to ripen a little early. Can not verify it but the guy that sprays for us says it it a common practice in some areas of the country.
 
JD, IaGary, others. The label for Grazon P+D has two cautions.

One is not to use manure from animals fed treated forage for composting or mulching susceptable broadleaf plants.

Two is to not use manure from animals grazing treated areas on land growing broadleaf crops that are susceptable.

No mention of excessive rates. Get a copy of the label and READ it if you don't believe me and VaTom.
 
I have been selling a few straw bales here and there over the past few years. Found that even if you advertise, it goes in sperts. You might not sell even one bale for 2 or 3 months, then you might sell some to 2 or 3 different people all in one week. Be patient, it will eventually sell. Different types of people want it at different times of the year. So if you miss one window, you have to wait for the next to catch em. Once in the shed, I won't sell any of it to be picked up there for under $3. Have been known to sell some at consignment auctions that brought a little under and I let it go just because I didn't want to mess with bringing it home. You hardly ever see bales bring less than $2 in my area. Even for low quality. You'll eventually find a buyer as long as you get rid of the gotta be gone tomarow attitude. The organic guy, ya probly just forget about him. If he's skeptical before he even buys, its better he just go on down the road.
 
Well you can always use it for fall decorations, then to start a brush fire to burn up tree trimmings, that's what I do.
 
I've been sold out since October in mid michigan. Only had 600 bales to sell but sold them from $2.50-$3/bale depending on how many they wanted. Advertised on craigslist.
 

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