(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)If a worker doesn't want to join a union, or pay dues if he/she isn't a union member that's fine.
You are correct, nobody is forced to join the union, if you dont want to join, no problem-o dont join. But you cant have the job if you dont pay dues. So are you really "not a member"? No, you are a paying member with no say in anything the union says or does. Sounds peachy, dont it. How would you like to live where there is a goverment that you cant have a say in it but you have to pay for it?
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)But here is the problem. If said person doesn't want to join a union, or pay dues, he/she shouldn't expect to get any of the raises or benefits the unions negotiates for.
Thats fair enough and I havent heard a single person that would want or demand that.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)Since act 10 has been put into place no one in the public work force is getting anything. They have gotten a few token bonus checks, but nothing towards their base pay.
Thats not true. Not true at all. I know there have been at least 2 general wage adjustments and several rounds of merit raises (the unions HATE those). Keep in mind, that is all on the heals of Gov Doyle that promised to fire 10,000 state workers. He stole from the DOT road fund putting the state in the pickle we are in now. Oh, this is a fun one, he implimented furlow days so not only did workers not get a raise, they took a pay CUT. Gov Walker eliminated the furlow days and started giving raises again.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)The work rules that were also negotiated for are being gutted.
No, hardly. Not even remotely true.
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These are simple rules pertaining to overtime pay, who has to work over time, how vacation time is to be scheduled,
There has been a few minor changes but in a nutshell, the changes came from prison guards and police abusing the system where they would agree to work OT but so they still got some time off, took vacation days before or after the OT. Example: Prison guard agrees to work Sat and Sun but so they didnt have to work 12 days straight, they took a vacation day on Friday. That vacation day used to be a days wages and the weekend was OT. Now, since that person took a vacation day and dont have 40 hours WORKED, Saturday would not be at time and a half, it would be straight time. Not a huge deal or big change.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)even some of the safety rules are being ignored.
BS. There is not a shred of truth to that statement.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)I'm really glad I'm retired, but worry about the workers who are still there. Some of you say that if they don't like it there they should move on to another job. What job?
Its funny you say it like that... move on to another job but what job. Well you just made a great point for RTW. See, if I want a job but dont want to join a union or pay dues, the raving lunitics are telling me dont join. But to your point, where is a person to go? If I cant take that union job because I dont want to be in or pay money to a union, where am I going to go? See how your argument is really arguing FOR the RTW laws?
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)There's really nothing to choose from in this area of the state. Plus people find it hard to tear up roots in search of a better job that may not be out there.
See, you are again making a point FOR the RTW laws.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)The other option would be to go on to school. But with the cuts that are going to be made to the university system, an education will be too expensive to obtain.
Maybe the UW system should have thought of that before they were sitting on milliions and millions of dollars in hidden accounts and they tried to RAISE tuition. Not too smart was it? Well, no big deal. The UW is trying to raise the out of state student ratio so even fewer local Wisconsinites can go and they more profitable out of staters can come here and pay full boat tuition.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)Students that do get an education they leave the state, because there just isn't any jobs for them here. It's all part of the brain drain that has gone on here for so long. That's a separate discussion, so I won't go any further on that subject.
Thats because the UW system is so keen on educating out of state kids. Know what out of state kids do when they graduate? I will tell you what they do.... they go home again. Its not rocket science.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)I don't know what the answer to our problems will be.
From reading everything you have said in this thread, that painfully obvious. Because of time constraints, I only comented on this single post of yours but its clear you know nothing of whats going on in the union jobs of state workers and have no clue how Act 10 affects people. I get that you dont like Gov Walker, Act 10 and anything that nnalert would be for, even if its as simple as free air and sunshine for everybody, but making up things in an attempt to discredit them really isnt helping your cause.
(quoted from post at 10:50:47 02/27/15)But I do know that the course that the governor is putting us on won't make any improvements to the states economy. If anything it will only make things worse.
Of course you dont know that because its not true. Where do I begin? Taxes are down. Unemployment is down. Wages are up. Building and business is up. Man, I could go on and on but, would it do any good? You have already made up your mind dispite the facts, why try to tell you any different? (that was a serious and real question)