150 Ford Pickup

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Has anyone had any experience with the 5.0 liter V8 and the six speed automatic transmission that they put in the 150 pickup?
I usually drive GM products, but might try a Ford, They still make a half ton extended cab and 8 foot bed. GM only offers it in a 3/4 ton and up.
I haulem some thractors occasionally.
Thanks for yo'als time.
 
If we take 1 in on trade here at the dealership it goes straight to an auto auction. Boss is a ford pickup nut but those and the 5.4's never go on the row for sale to the public.
 

The 5.0 is a 302 cubic inch. That engine started life as a 221, grew to 260, 289, and then the 302. Good enough for a Fairlane, Falcon, or Mustang, but not as good as a 300 in-line 6 in a 1/2 or 3/4 ton.
 
The new 5.0 is unrelated to the old version and is about 360 hp. It's a bit less hp and quite a bit less torque than the ecoboost v6
 
I bought a brand new 2014 f-150 crew cab with 5.0 2 days ago, don' know how it pulls trailer yet. Will use for smaller trailers, and general around farm use, have the f-250 stupid duty for the big flatbed trailers. Didn't want to shell out extra bucks for the eco-boost. I am impressed with it so far, 19 mpg on 120 mile trip home from dealer, and still around 16 with city driving. Lots of electronics on it that will take me a while to figure out how to operate. The six speed automatic transmission has a manual shift option on it, so if needed you can operate as a manual shift transmission.

Dick ND
 
I have a 2012 F150 STX with the 5.0 V8 and 6 speed tranny and love it. The towing package is great, when activated with the shifter button it downshifts automatically when you start braking hard. I pull a 16 ft tandem with various tractors and equipment with no problem. Without the trailer it is a screaming machine, real quick from zero to 100 MPH. Negatives are that rear springs are too weak for much bumper weight without dropping too much, needs air shocks to level out. I just adjust load on trailer to level it out. Also the driveshaft will cause a thump when taking off until you have the dealer grease it or do it yourself...spline into rear end comes dry from factory. Ford issued a tech bulletin on it, no big deal, easy fix. And I get a real 19MPG average. I like the 5.0
 
Other than the displacement, the 5.0 in the new Ford's is a different cat than the old pre-triton 5.0.

I know alot of guys that have them and love them. Decent fuel mileage for a V8 and good power.

As far as the 6spd transmission goes. Ford or Chevy doesn't really matter. Ford's 6R80 and GM's 6L80 were designed as a joint venture. They are very similar transmissions. They engineered it together and then went their own ways as far as building them. The operating theory is the same, but they manufactured their own parts with some tweaks that doesn't allow interchange. They haven't been out long enough to here if one is doing better than the other.

They also did this with a front wheel drive 6spd. Those transmissions are almost carbon copies of each other, with alot of parts interchangeability. The best is parts prices aren't identical for the two. So, you order some parts under the GM number for a Ford and vice versa. Identical parts, sometimes extremely different prices. Weird times we live in. BW
 
I have a 2013 plenty of power and tow options for pulling works good depending on hitch wight rear springs might be a little light
 
(quoted from post at 09:13:39 01/29/15) The new 5.0 is unrelated to the old version and is about 360 hp. It's a bit less hp and quite a bit less torque than the ecoboost v6

I will guess that 360 horsepower is achieved somewhere in the 5,000 to 6,000 RPM range, which is much higher than most of those trucks will ever see under normal driving conditions. What kind of horsepower and torque will it make down in the normal driving range of 1,500 to 2,500 RPMs?
 
Most likely the same as any other v8. They are
generally high rev/low torque engines from all
brands.
 
I have one. Going to Florida I get 22 m/g but going back to Ind i only get 20 m/g. It is going uphill I guess. Lots of hp pulls a 20 foot trailer with a ford 960 on it very easy. Got about 15 m/g pulling to 960
 
We have 5 2014 F150XL extended cab short beds and 4 2013 F150XL extended cab short beds all with the 6 speed auto and 5.0 engine. Seat of the pants driving - you can't tell a 5.0 from the Twin Turbo Ecoboost - power or mileage. A couple of the 2013s have 50K on them - no issues of any kind yet.


Don't let people try to scare you with talk about them being low on power, the 5.0 has a whole lot more power and torque than the 460 and the 7.3 diesel did in the 1990s. Even the little non turbo V6 they put in them now has more hp power and and almost as much torque as the big blocks did in the 90s.

Since I know you've checked them out - do all the extended cab long beds have heavy springs on the back for towing an hauling?
 
VicS we don't put them on the lot. do some of the V10's if the work has already been done on them. have a cust's in the shop now getting new heads and the rest of the problems fixed. As I said ALL with those engines go to the auction.
 
Dumb question:
Could a 5 to 10 MPH prevailing northwest wind affect gas mileage by that +/- 4 or 5 percent? Plus 4 percent driving with the wind, minus 4 percent driving into the wind at highway speeds?
 
Just suggestions on research I've done, don't own a new one. Have been debating getting one for a couple years, but it would be handier if I'd get a diesel. Cost more but I wouldn't have to hire as much hauling or wait on loads, etc.

There are "max tow" and "HD payload" packages you may want to look at. Some upgrades in trans. oil cooling, 7 lug wheels instead of 6, possibly springs and shocks (didn't look that far into it) etc. between the two packages. From what I read, if you want to tow much, best to get a 3.73 rear with the 5.0. 3.55 would work for lighter of course. 3.5L Ecoboost is a bit more forgiving since it's more powerful at lower rpm. Lots of used/new 5.0 and 3.5 at dealers around here.

As you may know if you are looking at new ones, '15 is a redesign and most of the body panels are now aluminum. Engines have little change with the same sizes. They don't know if they are going to charge more for insurance on them if repairs are higher, right now they aren't I guess, but it could change.

edit: found this "old" test comparing 5.0 and 3.5 on the dyno http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/04/how-we-dyno-tested-fords-3-5-liter-ecoboost-v6-and-5-0-liter-v8-engines.html
 
Well I will wade in. Buy a new one ever year and put about 60 thousand miles in 12 months. NOTHING wrong with the 5.0 and 6 speed. BUT My 14 was v6 eco boost 68 thousand miles perfect. The 15 I am driving today has 8600 miles and so far is showing 21.7 mpg. Left home this morning drove 456 miles to Sulphur Springs Tex ( From Middle Tn) 10 hrs 654 70 mph and it is showing 22.4 Four wheel drive supper cab aluminum. Love this truck and yes it will run and drive better than the 5.0
 
(quoted from post at 09:29:06 01/29/15) Other than the displacement, the 5.0 in the new Ford's is a different cat than the old pre-triton 5.0.

I know alot of guys that have them and love them. Decent fuel mileage for a V8 and good power.

As far as the 6spd transmission goes. Ford or Chevy doesn't really matter. Ford's 6R80 and GM's 6L80 were designed as a joint venture. They are very similar transmissions. They engineered it together and then went their own ways as far as building them. The operating theory is the same, but they manufactured their own parts with some tweaks that doesn't allow interchange. They haven't been out long enough to here if one is doing better than the other.

They also did this with a front wheel drive 6spd. Those transmissions are almost carbon copies of each other, with alot of parts interchangeability. The best is parts prices aren't identical for the two. So, you order some parts under the GM number for a Ford and vice versa. Identical parts, sometimes extremely different prices. Weird times we live in. BW

GM designed the tranny, Ford builds it under a license from GM. This cooperation is becoming more common here, but in Europe, it is been the standard operational mode for many years. Most of the big execs in all the companies have been posted to Europe at some point in their careers.
 
Agreed.

I haven't heard of anyone complaining about a specific reliability issue with the 5.0 - or even the 3.7 for that matter. Ford appears to have gotten them right from the start without without all the issues that normally comes with new engine designs - and these have been out there for several years now.

I had serious reservations about their new diesel, and they seemed to have even gotten it right the first time which was pretty important after all the issues they had with last couple of Navistars.
 
Something up with hd6gtom,s dealer.. Evidently he does not know this is a different engine. His statement they all go to auction makes me laugh. Around here you can,t price a used one too high. Just what ever you want to ask and it will be sold.
 
I am very pleased with my 2013 F-150, equipped with the 5.0 liter and six speed trans. The best option is the small button at the far end of my shift lever which changes the transmit ion soft ware from economy mode to Tow mode. That provides higher RPM's and holds trans in lower gear longer before shifting, also down shifts quicker to climb a hill in the road. Fuel economy is 20.7 while driving empty, and 18.1 pull a trailer with a International 140 chained down to it. I pull a 20ft trailer about 33 percent of the time. The ford handles it well. But I can still tell I have a light truck under me. Maybe that's from driving a 3/4 ton with a V-10 for the last 15 years. I did have to special order this truck as I wanted a regular cab.
 
Ive got a 2013 super crew 5.0, at the time I bought mine GM hadnt released the 6 foot box version and that's what I was after. I LOVE the 6 speed transmission it shifts smooth. My last pickup was an 03 GMC 1500 ext cab and when I was pulling in tow/haul it almost threw you in the back seat it shifted so hard. I'm averaging 17.5 in the winter and when pulling I get 11-15 depending on what's on the trailer.
 
You can easily loose that, 45° to direct side wind is worse than a direct head wind on my milage. You rarely gain tho even with a tail wind.
 
(quoted from post at 18:50:42 01/29/15)
(quoted from post at 09:29:06 01/29/15) Other than the displacement, the 5.0 in the new Ford's is a different cat than the old pre-triton 5.0.

I know alot of guys that have them and love them. Decent fuel mileage for a V8 and good power.

As far as the 6spd transmission goes. Ford or Chevy doesn't really matter. Ford's 6R80 and GM's 6L80 were designed as a joint venture. They are very similar transmissions. They engineered it together and then went their own ways as far as building them. The operating theory is the same, but they manufactured their own parts with some tweaks that doesn't allow interchange. They haven't been out long enough to here if one is doing better than the other.

They also did this with a front wheel drive 6spd. Those transmissions are almost carbon copies of each other, with alot of parts interchangeability. The best is parts prices aren't identical for the two. So, you order some parts under the GM number for a Ford and vice versa. Identical parts, sometimes extremely different prices. Weird times we live in. BW

GM designed the tranny, Ford builds it under a license from GM. This cooperation is becoming more common here, but in Europe, it is been the standard operational mode for many years. Most of the big execs in all the companies have been posted to Europe at some point in their careers.

I don't know where that info came from? The ford 6R80 is indeed a ford trans, if anything you can claim it's a joint venture between Ford and ZF (ZF Friedrichshafen). The 6R trans (6R60,75 & 80) is based on the older ZF 6HP26. Nothing related to GM.

Ford and GM do have a joint venture in a transmission though, I think just one being a transaxle for FWD based vehicles.
 
rustyfarmall, Ken Mcfarlane is right.The original 5.0 that many of us grew up with was a great engine and served well for many years, with a lot of modifications for different applications. However, the 5.0 of today is an entirely new engine. The only similarity is the displacement. Today's 5.0 delivers power and fuel economy not achieved by its ancestor. I will admit, I have not kept up with all the developments related to Ford's engines since I literally walked away from my job as parts manager at a Ford dealership on 2003. I just Googled "the Ford 5.0 engine" and then the Wickipedia article, and found some very interesting information. You might want to read it yourself.
 
Agreed. Right now used trucks are so high you would be better off buying a new one than buying a low mileage one a year or two old. I've seen used 2014s priced higher than NEW 2014s with the same equipment.
 

I had an 05 Mustang with the 4.6 3 valve and I think the 5.0 is based on those engines with updates of course.
 
I had a 5.0 and the auto with over drive in a full size Ford Van. Zero trouble with it. I was towing a small livestock trailer at times and the van wasn't really geared for that (the New River gorge trip was an experience!). Was a good highway cruiser without the trailer, made many a trip to New England on antique buying trips in it. Only issue I ever had was with the A/C but that was covered under the extended warranty I bought.
 
I have a 2013 f150 STX 4x4 with the 5.0. Bought it new. Have a little over 26,000 on it now. Has been a wonderful truck so far. Daily driver, gets anywhere from 15-20 mpg depending on temp outside. On long trips have gotten 22.5 mpg driving 63-64 mph avg. Heaviest thing I tow is a 26 ft RV, gets around 13-14 mpg in tow haul mode pulling it. It is a fun truck to drive. For a 5600 lb truck it will get up and go at your command! It does not hesitate to downshift if you step on it. As a comparison... One of the first trucks I drove was a 73 f-100 with a 302(drove it until 1999). NO COMPARISON at all-not even close! You would not be disappointed if you got a new/newer 5.0 f150. SMH
 

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