Ca n you tell which filter is a steins and which is a kaw?

Geo-TH,In · Jan 29, 2015

I have 2 Kawasaki engine, 17 hp on JD lawn tractor, the other is v twin on a 4010 mule. The filter on the left came off my Farmall C. After seeing how clean that Farmallfilter was, I installed an hour meter on it.

The filter in the middle has 4 fewer pleats than the filter on the right. Both filters have metal in the center, only the filter on the right has metal on the top and bottom and a better pressure relief valve design attached to the one metal end.

So which do you think is a steins and which a Kawasaki?

co_mike · Jan 29, 2015

Geo, I would guess the one on the right is a Kaw, my Cub Cadet has a spin on but looking at the Stiens vs Kaw I bought the Kaw.
Mike

Geo-TH,In · Jan 29, 2015

mike, the filter on the right is a steins. I purchased a case of steins off ebay for $40, free shipping, $3.33 each. The filter in the middle is a $12 Kawasaki filter. Steins has more pleats,40 vs 36, better pressure relief valve attached to the metal end, metal ends attached to the center metal tube. Kaw has paper ends and cheap looking pressure relief valve that is held in place with a spring.

The same steins filter I can use on my briggs and kohler engines.

Plan to cut apart a briggs and kohler filter to see how they stack up to the steins on the inside too.

I plan to change my oil and filters more often. The kaw filter off a mule only had 75 hours in it. No idea how many hours the steins had. It came off a kaw engine on the JD. JD didn't have an hour meter. I've installed hour meters on everything I have now. I think I'm going to do change oil and filter sooner, every 50 hours, instead of doing what the owner's manual recommends.

Mike M · Jan 30, 2015

So did you rip that Farmall filter apart or did it come out like that ?
I have had a few JD paper wrapped filters come apart like that. I switched them over to wix/napa with a metal outer covering.

Geo-TH,In · Jan 30, 2015

The farmall filter is the OEM canister type filter. The outside of filter was covered with the gray cardboard. I removed it to see the filter looked like new. Then I installed an hour meter. Tractor says I can go 200 hrs on filter. I only went one year and changed oil and filter, 5 qts. No clue how many hours.

My boy has a Toyota mini van. I can't believe that Toyota is using the old school can filter. Not to mention, it has very small surface area, almost the size of the steins filter.

I usually go 50-60 hrs on my brigg and kohler engines, I plan to cut them apart after the next oil change. Will post pics of briggs and kohler filters. Soon I need to do an oil change on the kaw mule. It has another kaw filter. I will cut it apart and show everything, including the by-pass valve held in place with a spring against the cardboard end of filter.

I'm surprised to see how cheaply made the kaw filter is compared to the steins. Not to mention $12 vs $3.33. Bonus, I really only need to stock one filter for all my small engines.

co_mike · Jan 30, 2015

I guess I will be looking at the Steins next time I buy, just changed my Cub @ 10 hrs as the manual says. Will probably not run to 50 hrs for ongoing changes. I'll see how many hours I put on in a full year with the Cub. Thanks for sharing.
Mike

Owen Aaland · Jan 30, 2015

You will need to open up the paper and look on the inside of the C filter. Oil flow through that filter is from the inside.

Ca n you tell which filter is a steins and which is a kaw?

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