Wild hogs in Texas, vrs. Washington wolves

RalphWD45

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I was belatedly reading, the topic of small game hunting, several pages back, and Nancy Howell, was talking about the wild hogs, in Texas, not having any natural preadetors. Being as the wildlife department in Wa., and Ore. think so much of their Wolf packs here. How about sharing the wealth with Texas. We could send them about 20 breeding pairs, and get some relief.
 
I don't think they would stand a chance with the hogs.They can travel in massive heard's. I counted 53 in one heard.One guy and his sons killed 29 in one day. What we need are helicopters with mini guns.
 
Ralph: The hogs would win most of the time. They are mean, unbelievably fast and as stated run in large packs. Plus they have razor sharp tusks. Animals like a wolf are opportunity feeders too. They survive by expending the least amount of energy possible in getting their next meal. Taking down a pig, while fending off other pigs would not only expend a lot of energy but would be downright dangerous for the wolf.

Rick
 
Introducing species in to their not natural areas hardly ever produces intended results and unintended results usually are worse then the original problem.
 
I think we should use the choppers in Wisconsin to get rid of the wolves. Our for fathers had the for sight to get rid of the wolves and our yuppie crowd decided that they were so nice and had to bring them back. If my dogs killed other peoples dogs and the DNR's precious deer and elk I would be in deep dodo.

Bob
 
I think what you say is about right. Then the Wolves would go after easier pry like YOUR livestock.
 
Actually there were wolves clear into
Mexico a few hundred years ago. However
they would probably find easier meals than
a wild boar if they could.
 
Since our Armed Forces are in need of more drone operators, I think the obvious solution to the pig problem would be to require the new drone operator trainees to get their training in Texas "harvesting" wild pigs. Then they could go on to hunt the wild "pigs" in Iraq. Sorta like killing two pigs with one stone!
 
I guess there is a reason wolves don't inhabit down here.

We do have an abundance of Coyotes that do like things like wild cotton tail rabbits which are plentiful, your chickens, dogs, cats, and such. Don't hear about livestock issues. They are very skiddish and reclusive. Usually hunt at night. Will see one out in the open periodically during the day. Usually they are crossing a highway.

Some of the build up areas are having problems with them because the areas are where the animals roam and have roamed for who knows how many eons. Every once in awhile you read about a problem.

After dusk settles they do a lot of yipping but I assume that is to locate their pack so that they can hunt together.

Mark
 
That's getting more common. State of Tx made it legal for anyone to hunt them from a helicopter provided they have permission from the landowners. Only problem is it costs about $700 a day.

google wild hog hunting. There are lots of videos of hog hunts from helicopters.
 
Like the others said, a wolf would have a difficult time against a single hog and would not stand a chance against multiple hogs. He would have to snatch a piglet and run hard to escape the others.

Even a pack of 8 or 10 would find it difficult. One or two would have to take down the hog while the others mounted a defense. The wolves would quickly switch to another food source.

Right now, the only effective means of population control is to build a large, tear-drop shaped trap, let the hogs get comfortable coming in and feeding on the bait, then trapping the entire herd. It can take 3 or 4 weeks to trap the entire herd.
 
I had no idea...

Our Department of Game and Inland Fisheries says:
"Feral hogs are four-legged ecological disasters. They cause damage to wildlife habitat wherever they exist. The only place hogs should be found is within the confines or boundaries of their owner’s property as a livestock or domestic animal, where they are cared for according to all livestock or domestic animal regulations. Anywhere outside of these physical and regulatory boundaries they are a direct threat to our natural resources, environmental quality, and agricultural interests."

"The recreational hunting of feral hogs does not control populations, just like hunting does not effectively control coyote populations. It is estimated that 70% of a feral hog population must be harvested every year to continue reducing the population size. In wild, free-roaming populations of feral hogs, achieving this goal is virtually impossible. Additionally, hunting pressure on feral hogs often pushes them to other properties and educates them, making harvest success even lower. Even successful hunting tactics can make a feral hog population that much harder to control. The best way to control for feral hogs is through controlled trapping operations."

"Hogs are not migratory animals, and farmers are not calling to notify us that their farmed hogs got loose where new populations of feral hogs have been discovered. We have to suspect that there have been and currently are people moving feral hogs to new areas where feral hogs didn’t exist previously and releasing them for sporting (hunting) purposes. Unfortunately, the same trend is playing out in other states as well. Biologists and researchers have referred to it as “the pig bomb,” describing the rapid and vast range expansion of feral hogs in the southeastern U.S. since the 1980s that cannot be explained by natural means or hog biology. Although proof is limited, biologists know that feral hogs are showing up in new places and they must be getting human help to get there. Moving feral hogs and releasing them to the wild in Virginia is illegal, according to the Code of Virginia (§29.1-521) and regulations 4VAC15-30-20 and 4VAC15-30-40. Feral hog hunting is what is feeding the growing feral hog problem, even if hunters have good intentions and desire to help control populations in the name of conservation. It is a supply and demand system. Interest in hog hunting creates more hogs. If nobody enjoyed hunting them, we wouldn’t have the growing problem we have today."
 
What they really should do is round up all those wild hogs and turn them loose in Afghanistan.
 
(quoted from post at 09:01:16 01/29/15) What they really should do is round up all those wild hogs and turn them loose in Afghanistan.

With the way those people feel about pigs they'd really come after us.

Rick
 
If anything you would introduce the hogs into Washington to deal with the wolf problem!

Wild hogs would eat a pack of wolves for lunch. Literally. I doubt if a wolf could pierce a mature hog's hide with its teeth, let alone bring it down. Hogs are well armored. You need a big caliber bullet to bring one down. I've heard that .223's bounce right off.
 
I don't believe a .223 would bounce off. When butchering hogs at home we shot them with a .22 between the eyes. It put them right down.
 

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