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Bruce from Can.

Bruce from Can.

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Woodville, Ontario, Canada
Mud was frozen this morning so I thought , what the heck.
Around here, even a poor plough job in the fall is better than
spring ploughing. But the sun came out and my stiff ground
turned to mud again. Just need a bit of cold to stiffen things up
again and I could finish this chunk. Bruce
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It's almost too muddy around here to even haul manure. That's supposed to all change starting tonight. Right after I feed this afternoon,I'm going to hook on to the cultipacker and see if I can smooth some of this mess out before it freezes up hard again.
 
Do you plow every year? I live in SE Illinois. No one plows, many disk or use some sort of vertical tillage tool. Very little chiseling. A lot of no-till. We have a 126gx. Seems to be OK. Vic
 
My dad bought a new 135hp one last summer with loader just like it, good loader tractor, but we were pulling wagons with it when it dropped something in the transmission and took out high and meduim range, had to drive it home in low, still haven't got it back from shop been gone two months, under warentee and gave us another new one to use for now, they said a few others have done the same thing. Not a bad tractor but not one I'd use much in field dad loves it but I don't think its much more than a loader tractor. Will say it is very fuel efficient.
 
I do not plough ever thing VicS , some of the silage corn stubble gets chiseled . We combined The corn off the far side of this field, so I am ploughing the stalks down. I will plant oats and barley here next spring, under seeded to hay. I don't farm much land ,only have around 300 acres, and only work about 100 per year.So I can't justify the cost of going all no-till. More land in our area is ploughed now than in the past.Even some BTO crop dudes are turning some ground. Not sure of why, weed control, or compaction maybe. Bruce
 
Bruce,They still are a UTILTY(loader) tractor,not a Tillage(draft)tractor.Your 135 is still a smaller-lighter tractor then a Deere 4230-40-50-55 or IH 966-986 or other past tractors of 100HP which is all they are ???100HP.They tried to come on strong with their ratings and had to take a bunch of tractors back for not being what purpose they were sold for.We have 6 dealers close and NONE are even stocking or trying to even sell any those for field work.
 
I didn't think one could plow nice little tractor but when you pick up an 1100 pound bale you wonder what you've got ahold of this was on a 100 hp mfwd but I imagine all the 100 hp tractors are like that now . Do they even make a 100 hp farm tractor anymore ?
 
Well, you live in Canada so probably don't give a flying flock about the name Kubota being from Japan. That is a big rub with folks in my corner of the world. Probably a lot to do with the comment about utility or lawn mower. Some of us prefer real tractors. Just my view point.
 
Massy 333,
You are living back in the day when farmers bolted on all the weight they could afford, generally on the wrong end of the tractor, and sacraficed economy, because they didn't understand how "draft control" and the dinamics of weigh transfer systems worked, and didn't know any better. MFD added even more dinamics to putting HP to the ground with a lighter fuel efficient tractor
Loren, the Acg.
 
accumilator
You are out of touch with reality. Here in the Eastern states of the US, Kubota is a major player, as popular as the green and red tractors, and far more dependable and fuel efficient than the other two brands mentioned.
Loren, the Acg.
 
You said that so much better than I would have mine would have been poofed. It is such a shame that some guy's cant use an open mind to a different brand comming into play in the large ag business and doing it at a lower price than the old brands everyone is use too.
John
 
Accumuluator , get out your history books, Canada declared war on Japan December 6th 1941. two days before the United States did. 73 years ago, I just don't see this as relevant today. I suppose you Key the paint on Honda and Toyota cars in the parking lot too.
 
Loren,You might be right on my viewpoint,but I don't know of anyone that expects to take ANY of these new over rated utility tractors to replace 970-1070-2090 type tractors and do what they did day in-day out.Harry Ferguson's ideas didn't fly then and they don't fly now and Kubota isn't flying now locally over 50-60HP either.As a joke,what I have seen of my neighbors 100-110 I wouldn't be afraid to put the weights-fluid-duals back on my 830 and do as good or a better job pulling then his does.He had to buy another bigger tractor to replace the one he traded off on the Kubota because of inability.
 
Kind of figured that with the coulters.........plowing stalks with a MF 880 is NOT one of my favourite memories.
I have about 25 - 30 ac. I want to try to get done yet if the weather holds.
 
I always heard that Kabota's were good garden tractors, but then they made them too big to get into the garden anymore! Would be embarrassing to actually have to plow a field with a Kubota!! Cmore
 
Everybody laughed at Honda and Toyota back in the 1970's too including the arrogant brass at GM and Ford.

Well all I can say today is if you want a quality automotive vehicle the choice is clear and the big 3 are not on the list. Japan is leaps and bounds in first place and they even manufacture more stuff in the good ole USA (using good ole USA citizens as workers) than the so called Big 3 domestics do. Heck I would even go Korean before the big 3. Korean manufacturers for the most part have heavily copied the Japanese but they do not manfacture near as much stuff in the USA as the Japanese do. Dad retired from GM so I used to bleed GM blood. When my current POS GM money pit truck is worn out it will be my last GM (or domestic vehicle) that I ever own.

I own a little 1978 Kubota L285. All I have done to it in the 16 years that I have owned is replace both battery cables and replace the battery once (with a used battery at that) and that is it. Laugh all you like.
 
(quoted from post at 03:50:38 12/29/14) Accumuluator , get out your history books, Canada declared war on Japan December 6th 1941. two days before the United States did. 73 years ago, I just don't see this as relevant today. I suppose you Key the paint on Honda and Toyota cars in the parking lot too.
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guess you don't see how toyota and the likes broke american car companies and IMHO is a direct result of the crappy economy steel mills went right with them along with the good paying jobs and everybody wonders what happened to the middle class???I don't see any of the foreign car companys replacing those jobs either,only at about half or less the jobs and about half or less of the wages.just cutting your own throat by buying one of those things.hate to see the same thing happen in agriculture,but some will do anything to justify saving a buck.short term gain long term loss IMO.not trying to jump on you I just don't support autos or tractors from that region.
 
None of these companies are really "American"
companies any more. They're all global
companies. The ONLY difference is where the
income taxes are paid. I can't understand why
any company would want to be based in the US.
Terribly high corporate income tax. Besides all
that, the big 3 are no longer. It's the big 2,
given that Chrysler is an Italian company now.

Toyota and Honda make a better car then GM or
Dodge will ever make. I think deep down Ford
has an idea what quality is, they just don't
often remember that. GM trucks use to be good.
Don't know what to tell you about Dodge. I know
I'd have to be drugged to ever buy one.
 
True son, just remember , "pride cometh before a fall" . If you think you would be, as you said "embarrassed to plough a field with one" . Let me ask you, do you have a field? If so show us some pictures of your set up . Always enjoy pictures of other peoples farm operations from all different regions. I do not me to be disrespectful in any way, but I think that some times people have never even used some equipment, and are just running their mouth. This is my business ,and my livelihood ,and has been for over 34 years, with no off farm job. Must be doing some thing right Eh? Bruce
 

Cue the Kubota haters!

Nice pics Bruce.

Clearly everyone should be buying an obsolete 1970's 2wd tractor as the big tractor on their farm instead of a new Kubota, because Kubota can't pull a plow(?)

So the real question, since Bruce has the Kubota and a 966....

Which pulls the plow better and which would you rather drive while plowing?

Next they will ask for video to prove the Kubota actually pulled the plow and you didn't just unhitch the 966 and park the Kubota in the furrow for the photo...

Weight comparison would be interesting as well. FWA makes up for ballast....

Lots of Kubota's of farms here as well. Kubota, Deere and NH are the big players. All depends on size required.
 
Well said Bruce. After selling KUBOTAs for 38 years I find that most of the folks bashing them in FACT have never owned one and a lot can afford one. Little do they realize that KUBOTA currently employees over 4000 folks in the us and in fact does build quite a bit of their product here in the states. And oh under 100 hp happened to have about 34% of the us tractor market. REPEAT customers make up a large percentage of tractor sales. As you say they must be doing something right.
 
Just so you will know. Massey sales are in their 7 straight year of decline. Total Massey sales would not be one forth of Kubota tractor sales in US. Expect Kubota will be around long after Massey is gone as a brand. This part of the country it is Massey dealers that are folding NOT Kubota.
 
Just a short note JM,I DO NOT SUPPORT MF,my name is from MH and you are 100% right on the decline.I have nothing against Kobota,but like another poster said NO MFG.makes a 100- 125Hp.tractor anymore that will do what a 80-100HP.15 yr.old and back tractor would do.No offence to you or any other Kobota person.
 
Thanks and yes weight has changed, Less DEAD weight actually causes the engine to have more usable horse power, if one can get it to the ground, hense the 4 wheel drive has come on strong
 
Mmmm Hmmm, my thoughts too... "New" is new, what ever gets the job done right?? Locally I have never seen a big Kubota like that, BUT there are two big towns up here, Sandpoint, and a little farther north is BonnersFerry. Bonners has LOTS of farming, and a JD and NH/Kubota dealer.

1 hour south in Sandpoint where I am, there is a JD dealer, and a Yanmar, but they are small. Also down here, EVERYONE is a true JD person. Every small farm out here bleeds Green....

Great pictures Bruce! Gald to see something different pullin the plow! ;)
 
Great picture. I have a couple of dairy farmer neighbors who have Kubotas. They both love them. No one around mold board plows anymore tho. I haven't used a mold board plow in 30 years. Parked in a fence row.
 
Don't misunderstand my post, Bruce.

I'm a big Kubota fan, and am well aware that new higher HP models are on the horizon.

I've just not seen anyone plow with one until now.

Dean
 
Ya that's bull to look at 830 john deere weight and max drawbar pull and look at 4010 weight and max pull . Look what a steam engine will pull versus what a tractor twice and 3 times the HP will pull . Ya light is great if your pulling s light disk or a grain drill or field cultivator
 
(quoted from post at 14:44:43 12/29/14) Just so you will know. Massey sales are in their 7 straight year of decline. Total Massey sales would not be one forth of Kubota tractor sales in US. Expect Kubota will be around long after Massey is gone as a brand. This part of the country it is Massey dealers that are folding NOT Kubota.
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hat you describe is not a good thing IMO.4000 jobs??wow that's a lot,not.they have probably stripped 3x that many jobs from this country ,I don't care if they last for a million hours I'd never own one.JMO though not trying to attack the OP seems like a good guy no ill will intended.FOR JM. just wondering why people like to see foreign companys succeed and american companys fail?troublesome thought.you know when they eliminate the competition with these low prices their prices will skyrocket?and also how do you make a cheaper,yet better product?cheaper labor comes to mind which would mean most all is manufactured overseas same as autos?
 
Thanks for the sane reply! Thought I might find a picture of our Kubota pulling a 15 ft Do-all. We also had a 4040 JD. The Kubota burns less fuel than the JD and will pull the do-all faster! The 40 series JD was a excellent tractor ours had 8800 hrs never overhauled. Just pump work, new water pump etc. But the New Tractors (not just Kubota) are a giant jump ahead. You can see on the screen what happens when you throttle back and shift up. Want to turn short, a new Kubota will turn shorter in 4 wheel drive than a 4040 2 wheel drive will. It will scare you the first time you try it! Where is a 125 hp JD tractor made? I know where our 50 hp JD is made. Same place as the Kubota. Vic
 
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