Ag Tires Or Industrial Tractor Tires

Spudm

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Would it make much of a difference on a two wheel drive utility field tractor pulling an implement? Seems like it would, but I'm not sure.
 
My log skidder has industrial tread on the front and ag tread on the rears. The rear tires dig much more aggressively than the fronts do when in a pull. Also 2wd backhoe has industrial tread. It gets around ok with the weight of the hoe hanging on the back, but it doesn't really "dig" in for traction either. I don't think I'd want them for trying to plow, disc, etc.
 
Hi all i can tell you here is anything thats come on the yard, with industrial tires on has had a 20 plus ton cat loader on top of them, or a back hoe. They do ok, but you got to be careful if wet.
They plug with mud and become a slick, much quicker than a lug tractor tire. unless it's real wet clay, Kinda the consistency of the stuff guys make pots with, then there all plugged solid and racing slicks.
Regular tractor tires self clean better I think, or don't plug at all, sometimes. From what I see running tractors, in the mess the big loaders have made in my hog barns.

In some cases you might be ok as you'd have more ground contact with the wider shallow lug, but other times i think it would hurt you more than you gain if the fields a bit wetter or maybe on snow. I think the idea of the industrial tire is strenght with the plys, and it doesn't ware off so fast on hard surface work, like tractor lugs do on concrete or black top.
Regards Robert
 
I took a lot of industrial tires off and put ag tires on things such as back hoes etc. they do have better traction in dirt.
 
My backhoe has a very tight ag tread on it, not much room for stuff to get between the lugs, and it is pretty helpless in mud... They fill up FAST, and then like others said, you have a backhoe with slicks on the back, and I usually end up pulling myself around with the hoe...
 
(quoted from post at 14:29:41 12/17/14) Would it make much of a difference on a two wheel drive utility field tractor pulling an implement? Seems like it would, but I'm not sure.

A [b:775f7596d2]tractor[/b:775f7596d2] doing [b:775f7596d2]agricultural[/b:775f7596d2] work.....AG tires

or you could deal with this
R-4's doing what they do
 
(quoted from post at 10:29:41 12/17/14) Would it make much of a difference on a two wheel drive utility field tractor pulling an implement? Seems like it would, but I'm not sure.

Lots of hobby farmers out here that have industrial tires on their tractors...most just don't know any better. I have one that competes with me for custom tractor work...I laugh every time I see his little sub compact 35 hp JD with R4 tires hooked to a 10 foot tandem disc....

Would you hire this guy for $60 an hour

or this guy for $75 an hour??
 
Why are they not sickle mowing and baling that hay in the top photo? That's 2T per acre haylage.
 
Been selling tractors for 28 years and sell a lot of four wheel Kubotas on R4 industrial but you do not want a 2 wheel drive in an ag use with industrial tires . Need regular tractor tires.
 
(quoted from post at 17:13:16 12/17/14) Why are they not sickle mowing and baling that hay in the top photo? That's 2T per acre haylage.

This field was probably owned by someone without animals and the owner just wanted it knocked down. We have a county weed board that sends out letters to property owners if they do not control their noxious weeds. If they don't control them by spraying or mowing, the county will spray at around $200 an acre and attach it to their property if they don't pay. People buy these little tractors with a 4 or 5 ft mower and think they can go out and do odd jobs...a lot of them know nothing about farming or operating a tractor. Between the rocks and the dust and repairs, most of them don't do it for long.
 
Ag tires make a huge difference in dirt and soft or muddy ground. Mowing and light work the industrial tires are ok and don't tare things up, but do slip allot.
In 2005 I bought a new utility tractor (40 hp) and it had industrial tires on it. For loader and scraper work it was the pits. I couldn't pull or push anything and was disappointed in my new machine. I had to be on the diff lock constantly. A week into it I called the dealer and asked what it would take upgrade to ag tires and my sales guy giggled and said he knew I would be calling when he saw my place when he delivered it. He told me to pull all the tires and wheels off and bring them in and he would just trade me out, no up-charge as long as there was no damage. My lucky day. It is twice the machine with the ag tire on it.

Greg
 
That top picture is mostly mustard and other weeds. Not much value in it. I mow allot of fields with a brush mower like that for people. Nobody want's it and the land owners just want it knocked down. Bailed weeds only bring about $50 a ton here in my area and they are a hard sell at that.

Greg
 
AND the rest of the story... Dealer cost on a 40 hp 4 wheel drive R4 vs ag about eight hundred dollars difference so he made out well. I am sure he was glad to make that swap;
 
(quoted from post at 19:16:30 12/17/14) At least the guy with the Bush Hog mower had a shield on the PTO shaft. The John Deere didn't.

That would be me. JD guy advertised to beat any written bid by 10%...I advertised to beat any written bid by 20%...and still made more $$$ than my regular rates. JD guy doesn't advertise anymore....
 
Ag tires would do better as you suggest but it ain't no point in being out there in that mud. Sometimes you should just wait to do a job.
 
R4 tires seem common on new compact loader tractors and loader/backhoe tractors of all sizes I see for sale. I've been told it because a lot of them will see use predominately on hard surfaces like asphalt and concrete doing jobs such as a compact tractor cleaning horse stables or a backhoe cleaning culverts. Also around here many compact tractors are headed into the landscaping business to do aerating where pulling prowess isn't really required and R4 gives them a bit more aggressive tread than turf tires while still being easier on turf and lasting longer when used on pavement than AG tires.

If your going to be pulling a plow, disk, etc in the dirt AG tires are designed for that job.

IMHO I prefer AG tires on turf for loader work--especially on a hills. I find the chevron pattern pressed in the yard from Ag tires highly preferable to trenches from spinning R4s. :) My little JD755 with loader freaking buries the AG tread of those tiny 12X6 fronts in the yard but in 4X4 there is no slippage at all. The back tires barely leave a mark.
 
Hi Remember half the dumb questions we get
asked here, This video is half the reason.
some town folk should stay in town and not own
land, animals, and tractors .

I bet their local farm neighbors laughed
behind their backs, when they said they were
buying that place. What a mess, and they
certainly weren't improving it, with that
tractor!
Then just to prove how dumb they are put it on
you tube, to show all the other idiots how to farm! L.O.L
Regards Robert
 
You may very well be right. I was just happy to get something that worked as I was prepared to pay more to get the right tire for what I needed. I was expecting to get told that since I had run the tires that they were not worth a trade without me paying again. I would have, it was completely helpless in soft ground the way I bought it.
I had no idea that ag tires were less than the R4. Can't cry now. I was happy and still am. They are wearing good and now she works. This was a huge upgrade for me. I was running and old JD 2 Cyl B with a goofy old loader that was a pain, but, did work. Sold the old B for double what I had in it after I had used it for 10 years.
I was able to finance the new machine at a good deal. 25% down and 0% if I paid it off within three years through Agcredit. Paid her off in two years.

Greg
 
(quoted from post at 17:13:16 12/17/14) Why are they not sickle mowing and baling that hay in the top photo? That's 2T per acre haylage.

You mean that fierce stand of nothing but WEEDS?
 
Looks like weeds to me. Down here most of what blooms is weeds and you can't sell it. Now a Butter Cup at full bloom is a delicacy for my cows, but bale it and they walk away.

Mark
 

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