Maple syrup?

I know it is out of season, but I was telling my uncle about this forum and the topic of maple syrup came up and the photos people post from the maple season. Do any of you have any left to sell? or know of a store in your northern area I could call and get a case shipped down to NC? email me if you do.
Thanks
Joel
 
In a random meeting the other day I had a local fellow tat is semi-retired tell me he is looking into syrup making. The Iowa forester told him that box elder makes just as good of syrup as maple???? Could this be true???
 
I don"t remember the type of trees, but this year I did hear of others that can be used to make syrup. No idea about output or other details, just that the sap can be used.
 
It is true. When I was a kid we could break an end off a box elder branch and we would lick the sap. It was very mildly sweet. Box Elder is a maple. Sugar Maples have more sugar in the sap is my understanding.
 
I have heard that about Box Elder too. We don't have any real sugar maples in N MN so I guess people tap soft maples and Box Elder, I have had some of the syrup, it tasted OK but not worth the money as far as I am concerned. I have heard that a real sugar Maple should have a leaf just like the one on the Canadian flag.
 
These guys are just down the road from me and real nice folks. I am sure they still have some left from last year.

http://sweetreesmaple.com/index.html

Tim
 
Ride up to Highland Co Virginia in the Spring they have a Maple Sugar Festival every year with lots of small operators cooking down the syrup.Personally Maple Syrup is a poor substitute for Sorghum Molasses(Syrup) made in your area.
 
The great thing about the Highland Maple Festival is getting there early and eating a pancake breakfast from one of the local groups. And the maple donuts!
 
Regarding trees as source for syrup.... Bob Drummond of Drummond's Sugar Bush in Canada says they use a mix of sugar maple and 15-20% hard maple sap to make their syrup which is some of the best maple syrup and sugar I have ever consumed. Bob says the hard maple sap adds a boldness to the maple that would be absent with sugar maple sap only.
 
On the subject of Maple Syrup: For a lot of years I liked to use "Vermont Maid" brand of Maple (flavored?) syrup. I really liked it.

One day I had some extra cash, feeling flush and bought a small bottle of 100% pure Maple Syrup. I was really surprised to find that the VM tasted better than the pure syrup.

Don't know what was in the bottle but no doubt the VM had a blend of Maple and something else, (price of the bottle wouldn't support 100% MS) maybe some of the sugars mentioned in this posting.

Was disappointed.

Mark
 

TexasMark, your experience is much like anyone else who is used to consuming maple flavored syrup as opposed to maple syrup.

To say Vermont Maid tasted better is opinion, but it's a valid one. Vermont Maid like Aunt Jemimah, Log Cabin, and a multitude of others is a corn syrup, sugar based syrup with maple flavoring.

I can't count the number of folks who just knew they wanted 10 gallon of maple syrup until they tried it. Suddenly they didn't really want it at all.

For those of us who grew up on our own syrup made at home, it's really hard to go to a restaurant or friend's home and enjoy syrup in the same way we do at our own kitchen table.

We do a lot of cooking with syrup, and recipes made with flavored syrup have an off taste.

If you thought you hated the golden product from a store, you'd probably gag at the dregs of the pan I prefer over all others on my own pancakes.
 
I assume many places have it available all year round.I always did before I moved out of New York and Vermont. Probably anywhere that has real winters. black maples and/or hard maples will have producers and sellers.

Try this guy (Brodie's). One of the biggest producers in my area of central NY. I used to sell bulk sap to him
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A few more.

Ensign Family Maple Products
869 Jennings Road
Marathon, NY 13803-
(607) 849-3635

Pied Piper Maple Products
1335 West Valley Road
Preble, NY 13141-9607
(315) 636-8569
18 miles


Happy Jack's Maple Syrup
214 Chipmans Corners Road
Locke, NY 13092-
(607) 423-2775


Critz Farms
3232 Rippleton Road (rt 13 south)
Cazenovia, NY 13035
(315) 662-3355

Schoolyard Sugarbush
5967 Appletree Point Road
Moravia, NY 13118-2271
(315) 497-3480

Cedarvale Maple Syrup Co.
3769 Pleasant Valley Road
Syracuse, NY 13215-9751
(315) 469-6422
25 miles

Sweetrees Maple Products
761 Glen Road
Berkshire, NY 13736
(315) 699-3855


Skaneateles Sugar Shack
2234 Benson Road
Skaneateles, NY 13152-
(315) 246-0651


Smokey Hollow Maple Products
8597 Pierce Road
Jordan, NY 13080-9428
(315) 689-9833
36 miles


Ben & Judy's Sugarhouse
770 Beaver Creek Road
West Edmeston, NY 13485-1728
(315) 899-5864


Bush's Syrup House
197 Bates Road
Harpursville, NY 13787-1827
(607) 693-1243


V.V.S. FFA Maple Market
5275 State Route 31
Vernon-Verona-Sherrill High School
Verona, NY 13478-2913
(315) 829-2520


Shaw's Maple Products
7945 Maxwell Road
Clinton, NY 13323-4305
(315) 853-7798
40 miles


Komrowski Maple
7584 Tater Road
Memphis, NY 13112-8755
(315) 635-9365

Arnot Teaching & Research Forest
611 County Route 13
Van Etten, NY 14889-9506
(607) 589-6076

Tibbitts Maple
8874 Tibbitts Road
New Hartford, NY 13413-5228
(315) 793-3114


Maple Hill Farm
86 Guernsey Road
Hannibal, NY 13074-2329
(315) 593-2396


North Franklin Maple Syrup Co.
13501 State Highway 357
North Franklin, NY 13775-2231
(607) 829-2100
48 miles
 
And more . .

Willow Creek Farm
390 Lakeshore Road
Fulton, NY 13069-4777
(315) 592-5889

Schiek's Maple Products
873 Ridge Road
Penn Yan, NY 14527
(315) 536-6393

Ingles Maple Products
382 State Highway 28
Richfield Springs, NY 13439-3759
(315) 858-0368
53 miles

Red Schoolhouse Maple LLC
2437 County Route 4
Fulton, NY 13069
(315) 243-1024
54 miles

Day Brothers Dairy & Maple Farm
2292 County Road 6
Phelps, NY 14532-9534
(315) 789-0883


Maple Hollow Farm
1309 County Route 85
Hannibal, NY 13074-2132
(315) 564-7133

Yardley Maple
524 County Route 64
Mexico, NY 13114
(315) 380-1416


Brookside Maple
2544 County Highway 2
Delancey, NY 13752-2173
(607) 746-6618


Catskill Mountain Maple
65 Charlie Wood Road
Delancey, NY 13752-3172
(607) 746-6215


Elk Creek Maple Syrup
2657 County Rd 34
Westford, NY 13488-
(607) 264-3452
65 miles

Shaver-Hill Maple Farm
450 Shaver Road
Harpersfield, NY 13786
(607) 652-6792


Dar-View Maple
2818 Fall Clove Road
Delancey, NY 13752
(607) 435-1657


Stoney Ridge farms
625 County Road 28
Palmyra, NY 14522-
(585) 733-0814
 
And even more. If I was buying syrup from someone else made - I look for syrup made by a small producer on a wood fire and no reverse osmosis machine (like many now use). Wood fire and extra boiling time makes a better, old-fashioned tasting syrup - at least to my tastes.

Trout Creek Farm
10045 Mattoon Road
Prattsburgh, NY 14873
(585) 346-6889


Stone House Farm
305 Lynk Road
Sharon Springs, NY 13459-2017
(518) 284-2476


Thompson's Sugar Shack LLC
245 North Harpersfield Road
Jefferson, NY 12093-3703
(607) 652-4261


Rudd's Family Maple Syrup
16370 Balch Place
Mannsville, NY 13661-3228
(315) 465-4491


Roxbury Mountain Maple
750 Roxbury Mountain Road
Hobart, NY 13788-
(607) 538-1500
73 miles


Buck's Maple Barn
460 North Road
Jefferson, NY 12093-3124
(607) 652-3188


Packard Valley Farms
438 Macedon Center Road
Macedon, NY 14502-9372
(315) 986-2539

Wohlschlegel's Naples Maple Farm
8064 Coates Road
Naples, NY 14512
(585) 775-7770

Schoff's Sugar Shack
1064 Willis Hill Road
Victor, NY 14564-9116
(585) 924-3769

Frasiers Sugar Shack
144 Church Street
St. Johnsville, NY 13452-2500
(518) 568-7438


Kenneth Burger Farm
3437 Millbrook Road
Margaretville, NY 12455-4113
(845) 586-4784

Mud Road Sugar House
278 Mud Road
Ephratah, NY 13452
(518) 774-0624


Maple Hill Farm Enterprises, LLC
107 C Crapser Road
Cobleskill, NY 12043-5913
(518) 234-4858

Shadow Hill
7285 Lakeside Road
Ontario, NY 14519
(315) 524-2190
80 miles
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Trout Brook Sugarhouse
296 Taylor Road
Honeoye Falls, NY 14472-9771
(585) 624-5648
80 miles
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Tree Juice Maple Syrup
59 Rider Hollow Road
Arkville, NY 12406-
(845) 802-4098
83 miles


Vly Creek Maple Farm
2470 COUNTY HIGHWAY 37
Fleischmanns, NY 12430-4410
(845) 254-4283


Two Saps Syrup
303 Cripplebush Road
Central Bridge, NY 12035-2505
(518) 868-9328

Peaceful Valley Maple Farms
116 LaGrange Road
Johnstown, NY 12095-4031
(518) 365-1574


Burnham's Pure Maple Syrup
14453 County Route 63
(Massey Street Rd)
Adams Center, NY 13606
(315) 788-3193

Two Creeks Farm
9278 Byers-Kyserville Road
Dansville, NY 14437-
(585) 750-8265

Moser's Mapleridge Farm
3981 Wilson Road
Copenhagen, NY 13626-3530
(315) 688-2518


Justus Asthalter Maple Syrup, Inc.
865 Aden Road
Parksville, NY 12768-5235
(845) 292-8569
88 miles


Tug Hill Sweets & Treats
33871 County Rt 163
Copenhagen, NY 13626
(315) 408-8100
88 miles

Frost Valley YMCA
1920 Frost Valley Road
Claryville, NY 12725
(845) 985-2291
 
You're right about the cooking just like Sorghum if its not cooked right its terrible and the wood needs to be dry but with no rot in it.In Highland CO Virginia they use Oak and Hickory to cook with and that may help its flavor.
 
Sugar maple is hard maple, same tree, Acer Durum I think in Latin.
Maybe he was talking about Red Maple(Acer Rubrum)?
Zach
 
I can confirm that Box Elder will cook down to a syrup. As a kid my father and I tapped a few Box Elder trees we had and cooked the sap down to a syrup. I remember it being sweet, but not much more. Seems like this was for some sort of 4-5th grade science project. Real small scale experiment, I think I used cookie sheets in the oven for the processing.

Kirk
 



Absolutely correct!Nothing like the taste of maple syrup made in a little old sugar camp,at least 100 years old,back in the woods a ways.Might even be open at one end.Steam billowing from the open vents at the roof ridge.No oil fired evaporator,no osmosis just a white hot fire going full tilt under the pan.Somebody dropping 2 or 3 fresh eggs in the pan to hard boil to go with lunch.
As kids we hit every bush in the immediate area for free samples.
Boxelder is one of many trees that give sap for syrup making but the sugar content is low which means lots more sap is needed.
 
MMMMMMMM I also love maple syrup. If you Google or Bing or Yahoo your question I'm sure you could find plenty of suppliers.

John T
 
For those interested, the link below is to a museum of maple-related equipment and such, and much of their content is viewable online, though if you're going through the area a visit would be worth your time if the subject interests you. It's local to me here in northern NY, where much of NY's maple syrup is made. They also sell syrup and other maple products--Maple Butter on homemade bread is something that has to be tried to be appreciated!
American Maple Museum
 
You're making me hungry now! When I first
worked at a sugar camp on the Canadian border
of Vermont - we almost lived on hot sap during
the day. Beer or cheap wine at night. We froze
our butts off all day carrying buckets (no
pipe-line). The sap-house was warm, steamy and
smelled great. We made our coffee with hot sap,
cooked eggs in the evaporator, even cooked our
hot-dogs for lunch in it. Kind of miss all
that. The newer syrup made with an R/O machine
and oil-fire certainly comes out clear - but
just doesn't have the "old fashioned" taste I
like.
 
You kind of lost me there. Hard Maple IS Sugar
Maple. They are not two different trees.
Scientific name "Acer Saccharum." I.e. has
"sugar" right in it's scientific name. 2nd to
that is Black Maple also called Black Sugar Maple.
Scientific name "Acer Nigrum." 3rd is Red Maple
or "soft maple", scientific name "Acer Rubrum."
Red maple has less sugar content and takes a lot
more boiling then Hard/Sugar or Black Maple.
 
Well thanks for the reply. I just expected more and was ignorant
about the whole process other than one would expect that pure
maple syrup came from maple trees with no additives.

I'll tell you this. John Morrell is a pork producer supplying
products down here. On his bacon, he has 3 flavors: Maple,
Apple, and Hard wood, assuming this is Oak, not Hickory (better
tasting) but Oak is OK.

The Maple flavored bacon will stink up your house for a week
and I almost puke just cooking it. Have no idea what syrup he
used but I certainly don't like it and do not buy that flavor any
longer.

Mark
 
Yes indeed - various trees can be used for making syrup. I have a jug of shagbark hickory in the refrigerator I use from time to time. However, my favorite is 100% maple syrup.

I have tapped soft maples before, however you need to boil away approximately 80 gallons of sap for each gallon of syrup. Sugar maples require approximately 40 gallons of sap to yield a gallon of syrup.
 
Helped some one on here fix a dozer several year back He did the syrup in New York . Sent me some and it is like nothing you buy in the stores. Sure was the real stuff.
 

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