Front loader how much weight on the back ?

Mtractor · Nov 25, 2014

I have this Super H Farmall and have a loader on it and how much weight should I have on the back? The loader is out about 7 foot in front of the tractor. There is 3 rear wheel weights on each side and there is a plat form on the very back that has 4 rear weights on it. There is no water in the tires. I am looking for a wide front . I know I need one to lift heavy loads and be safe. The tractor uses the distributor hydraulic pump . Do I need more weight on the back? I really don't know how much I can pickup anyway but want go be ready if it is to heavy. Thanks

DeltaRed · Nov 25, 2014

Two things I see: A wide front may not fit. Due to the design of the loader,the loader arms may sit too low to allow clearance for a wide. Second. A wide front being "safer",no,not really. A wide is still still a three point 'suspention'.A wide only puts the pivot point about 18" or 24" higher.It will still tip if misused. That is an 'optical illusion'.Common mistake.The best thing to prevent tipping is to be smart.Another thing From what you describe,you have enough wt.Fill the rear tires with fluid if they dont have any. That will put the most wt where it needs to be-on the 'ground'.

Mtractor · Nov 25, 2014

The loader does not go all the way down so there is pleny of room for a wide front. Thanks for the reply.

David G · Nov 25, 2014

It all depends on how heavy a load you can/plan to lift. I have 1500 pounds on each wheel of my loader tractor, it stops at 2500 pound lift.

John A · Nov 25, 2014

Mtractor, You have a good start on what you need, But Still not enough. I am just not a fan of Liquid Ballast! Just too much of a headache when you have a flat, xtra cost to get it fixed, Etc....!
IMHO You need to add 4 more total wts to the back platform on your tractor. that would give you a total of 7 wts per each rear corner,.... 145 x 7 = 1015 on each rear corner, or a total of 2030 lbs of total counter ballast for you tractor! Also if you are doing a tractor ride or the like the back platform wts can be easily removed / set off, so not to half to carry them when they are not really needed!
Hope this helps!
Later,
John A,

VicS · Nov 25, 2014

The first really strong loader I saw was a 560 IH at Sikeston Mo. The loader was kinda like a wish-bone, arms came together over the hood and had a cylinder from a semi dump truck. Don't remember how many stages. My brother had bought a 4010 & a 3010 JD that didn't run and the 4010 wheels didn't turn. They just threw a couple of straps around the 4010 and set it on our trailer. The 4010 had 1000 lbs of weight on each rear wheel. The 560 handled it easily, about 12000 lb. They had a large steel box on the rear full of junk iron. O and it had a narrow front with 11L X 15 tires. Guy said wide front wouldn't take that much weight. Vic

Mtractor · Nov 25, 2014

Thank you that is what I needed to know.

BushogPapa · Nov 25, 2014

If you are careless, no amount of rear weight will make it "safe".
You will need to know how high to raise the load and WHEN you must lower it, to prevent a roll-over.
A 7 ft over-reach is going to limit what you can lift and stability too...
There are times when Loaded rear tires are a good idea..

Ron.

Mike M · Nov 26, 2014

I also am not too sure about a wide front being any safer ?
Sure does not FEEL very safe when the back starts to come up it is a LONG ways to the axle pivot stops. I keep my hand ready on the loader valve for a fast drop when the back comes up. Drive slow with loads too.

mkirsch · Nov 26, 2014

Weight will be most effective BEHIND the rear axle of the tractor.

Putting fluid in the tires or weights on the wheels makes the front end of the tractor the "balance point" for all the weight. Weight behind the rear axle moves that balance point back to the rear axle, which is designed to carry the most weight. Weight is actually lifted from the front end making the tractor easier to steer as well.

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