Food Inc program on tv

Alan K

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Been watching a program called Food Inc. It is about how companies and corporations control food, some from seed to supermarket, and yes Monsanto was one of them. Makes a persons blood boil. One thing that was stated in 1996 2% of soybeans were round up ready. In less than 10 years later over 90%. One person who had a seed cleaning business had to give up from pressure from Monsanto as they had a list of all his customers and bank records from the last 10 years, plus a list of farmers who planted their seed and conventional seed. One farmer that planted conventional seed was not allowed to purchase Monsanto products. Too much power in the hands of so few. One of the things the program mentioned about the food industry is how it manipulates the consumer on what you buy. It is based on three things...fat, salt and sugar...all the things that taste good lol. I wonder what is going to happen if and when they control your garden.... Where is the world going to end up? Some technology is a blessing but may end up being a curse.
 
what channel is it on?


I couldn't find it on directv, but had heard that it was full of things that are pretty open to interpretation. I will have to watch it some day.

I'm also looking forward to seeing the documentary Farmland.
 
That 'report' may be a bit heavy handed..... Enough propaganda on both sides I suppose, but I wouldn't take this deal at face value!

If you look into the cases they mention, it is actually folks with their hand caught in the cookie jar, trying to steal the technology from the big corporations. Once caught, oh their story changes a bit.... While its always popular to cheer for the little guy, don't know as I'd take their side of things - if you actually look into the cases mentioned.

Folks went to planting rup soybeans because they are so much easier to grow, weed control is cheaper. Wasn't a whole lot of arm twisting, was dollars and cents.....

Think you can find the whole deal on YouTube.

Paul
 
Alan: I am not a big fan of the BIG Corporations that are trying to control too much of what is going on in farming. You also need to be aware that the producers of "Food Inc" have their own agenda that is not much better than Monsanto's either. They what the GOVERNMENT to control everything. They want things to be "fair" with the power of law and them making it that way. I know that would not be much better than the current system.

So I would suggest that you check the things that this show is stating as "facts" They lie just as much as the other side. The truth is some where in the middle.

An example of this is the "innocent" Farmer that has been caught growing/selling Round Up ready soybeans several times. If he had been truly growing/cleaning/selling non gmo soybeans he would have not been in any trouble. He was doing these things with Round Up Ready beans and not paying any tech fee.

Also Monsanto did not FORCH anyone to plant their Round Up soybeans. Most did/do it because they feel there is an economic advantage to doing so. There are some farmers that think this advantage has ended and they are planting Non GOM soybeans.

So become more educated on the whole thing and then work to make it better. I do meant this. I do not like the BIG Corporate system that is growing to control too much in the world. So educate your self and lets all work to make things better.
 
I do see what you are saying and agree, a lot of the round up ready products are dollars and cents from a production stand point. Part of the problem that is going to follow down the road, with grain prices as low as they are, some people wanting to go back to using conventional seed for next year. How can a person justify paying nearly $300 or more for a bag of seed when the price after harvest isn't there. If there is no conventional seed companies left or the control of what you can buy is in the hands of a few, there will be another choice in farming gone. You are right, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Ive even seen Del Monte dog food lol.....Makes me think twice about eating my vegetables ;)
 
Thanks,

Im sure it will be back around, soon. Instead, I must have been watching that tv show about the town in Missouri that burned down. can't think of the name of the show...
 
Its been on a few times, and as satellite tv goes it will probably make its rounds again lol. I do agree what was said on the program about the fat salt and sugar in what we eat. Those are craving triggers and if they can make you crave it...you will want to buy it. I don't doubt that plays a part in a persons health more than is realized.
 
Just another scare tatic made by people who wants to regulate everything cant have animals in a pen and the list goes on. Man has been improving the food supply for more yrs than can be counted. Now our life span is longer than ever before and they want to stop progress.
 
Anytime big corporations get a monopoly on anything its usually bad news for everyone else.The ironic thing about GMOs is that the farmers using and supporting them now will probably be driven out of business because of them.Large corporations now have a way to get into to buying land and operating
larger and larger farm operations pushing out the private farmers.Farming in the years to come will be split between
huge corporate farms and small farms selling direct to consumers.
 
I would do my own research. Before I would believe anything on tv.

There was a show on animal planet. About a group rescuing some lions just outside of town. According to them. We were a bunch of hicks ready to hang the tv crew.For takintg the lions

Of course they didn't say anything. About the free meals and hotel rooms they were given.Or that they were ask to come get the cats. Because the owner was very sick and could no longer take care of them.
 
When you watch anything on TV these days that purports to be a "documentary" you'd better understand that they are all agenda driven...and the agenda is control/profit/political power. That goes for the news too. Before you buy anything they say you'd better do a little home work no matter what the subject is. I'm over in the "sustainable/small farm/local control" end of things and even I get sickened by by some of the propaganda put out there by people I more or less agree with.
 
When a company like McDonalds gets in to raising beef that is where some of the scare tactics come out to the public as it gives people a look into mass production of beef (if you can call it beef lol) that they wouldn't normally see as it isn't the same as a farm is. I agree some programs are used to scare a person to believing a certain view point, but the way mass production is by corporations now days and in the future cannot be good for the food we eat, like dumping it in a chemical bath to kill bacteria, mainly in the poultry industry. That has been done for years but I remember a few years ago companies were going to be allowed to "up" production lines from 140 to 170 units per minute so more chemicals would be used to kill bacteria. Ive never thought of dipping my chicken in Clorox before I eat it lol.
 
Very good point about being driven out. I think you are are spot on about the future of farming. I remember a few years ago telling my brother that almost a hundred years ago the government broke up "big oil" (Standard)...now it is run by it.
 
(quoted from post at 09:25:35 11/25/14) When you watch anything on TV these days that purports to be a "documentary" you'd better understand that they are all agenda driven...and the agenda is control/profit/political power. That goes for the news too. Before you buy anything they say you'd better do a little home work no matter what the subject is. I'm over in the "sustainable/small farm/local control" end of things and even I get sickened by by some of the propaganda put out there by people I more or less agree with.


This is the exact reason I would like to see the movie Farmland. It was on hulu for free for a while and I missed it. So far, the reviews of the documentary have been extremely negative, because they say it is about good young farmers. (I know 1 of the 6, personally, hence my eagerness to see the film.) The reviews are awful, not because the film was made poorly, but because no one in the film took a stand against GMOs or no one in the film directly mentioned global warming. I'm not joking. You can go read the reviews. They say, this is because the film was paid for by a farmers and rancher's alliance. Now, honestly, I don't know about anyone else, but the person I know who is in this film doesn't care 1 bit about what I think, or what you think, let alone what some alliance thinks or a director thinks. There is no way that they told her what to say. I believe the rest of the young farmers are the same way. It's just the sign of the times, that people actually believe a documentary is supposed to be dark and the film's financing is supposed to turn it into propaganda for a position.

I always thought the definition of a documentary was to "document" life. Is that just crazy nonsense on my part? Apparently, Michael Moore, and Morgan Spurlock changed the definition, somewhere along the lines. The Documentary King Corn, another you must see, was done at a time when corn prices were at or below $2 a bushel not even 10 years ago. (anyone else remember that fun? hahaha) It at least documented the lives of the documentary makers. Some of these self proclaimed documentaries don't really do that, much less, if anything else.

Anyhow, if anyone gets a chance, King Corn is a film I'd watch, just because. Food Inc, I want to see. Farmland, if anyone finds it online, let me know.
 
That is what a documentary used to be. I agree it has become something to use as propaganda more than reporting in some cases. I think Ive seen something on King corn. One thing they mentioned in Food Inc which wasn't actually fact Im betting, was them saying years ago (cant remember the year) American farmers set out to produce enough corn so the price was low enough so the rest of the world couldn't compete. In a corporation being large enough to control foreign markets maybe, but as a farmer would you say Im going to take less for my product so someone on the other side of the world cant beat the price. I would think you would want as much as you can get for it or at least a decent price for what you have in it.
 
Weather you like GMO's or Big Corporations that basics are folks plant round up ready soybeans because they figure they'll make more money on them then regular soy beans. Monsanto does own the patent and although I don't agree with all their tactics to enforce them they do have a right. There is some areas of agriculture and the associated food industries that are pushing back. Many grow local/buy local programs and markets are springing up. I don't know if they'll last long, food has always been cost sensitive and these models may produce "better" food but it also costs more, the other factor I wonder about is Uncle Sam wants to be more involved in food production so he can make sure it's "safe" for us and we don't get poisoned by bad food. Of course this also gives control of our food to a large and powerful government entity that I don't trust anymore than large and powerful corporations.

So again I ask why is it when a group of workers form a Union to thwart market forces and cause them to get more for their labor is this good, but when a group of companies get together to manipulate markets to get more for their products this is bad? Why is it good for a powerful central government to control our food supply (with large inputs from Unions who have a stated purpose to get more for themselves and their workers at your cost), but bad for a powerful central corporation to control our food?

As someone else said consider the source, if it's on TV it's probably driven or funded by some group with ulterior motives. Heck most of the dominate media still thinks Barry & the Boyz are doing a good job and leading our country the way it should go.

We are giving up our freedoms in record numbers. We have some input to the selection of our our politicians, we have some choice in who we buy our seed and food from, we have some input on where we can get out health care, where we work and live, what cars we buy and where we worship, but we are giving up more and more of those decisions and rights every day. But the bottom line is we make these choices, sometimes by doing nothing we are making choices. We are fast coming to a point where vocal and well organized minorities in increasing smaller areas of the country get to make significant decisions, and sometimes those decisions are nothing more than to take from us so they can have more and not pay for what they get.
 
Here's a picture of the whole crew at Pivot TV. Must be a combined total of three hours of life's experience among that bunch. I think I'd be permanently glued to that station hanging on their every word. lol
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Pivot
 
The patent on Roundup Ready 1 soybeans expires this year. I would guess there will be a lot of changes coming in the next few years.
 
I've watched Food Inc. a couple of times now... it's one of those things that mixes in just enough truth that most people will buy it... but when you know the difference and get down to challenging it's core 'facts' a lot of things turn into half truths and twisted interpretations at best and outright slander at it's worst. It's NOT something that I would view as credible.

Rod
 
(quoted from post at 13:46:28 11/25/14) Here's a picture of the whole crew at Pivot TV. Must be a combined total of three hours of life's experience among that bunch. I think I'd be permanently glued to that station hanging on their every word. lol
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Pivot

My daughter, 29, tells me that's the cast from "Friday Night Lights". That would explain why there are all those little hotties showing the skin.

But yeah, Pivot is definitely a "lean forward" (and way to the left!) type channel.
 
It finally came back around on pivot tv and I'm watching it right now. There is about an hour left and so far I see them twisting things to fit an agenda... hrmmm... :? :roll:
 
(quoted from post at 03:07:22 11/25/14) It was on the PIVOT station.

Look, Pivot is a channel that shows pretty much nothing but agenda driven, "progressive" TV. Anything MIcheal Moore has done is on Pivot. Anything that makes big business look positively evil and big gov't look wonderful is on Pivot. If it's pro-external_link and Green it's on Pivot. Even the channel name implies change, "pivot in another direction", it's all part of the "hope and change", "forward" socialist hype.

If you want to watch and believe the agenda driven "documentaries", fine. But go into it knowing what the agenda is (USA=bad, corporations=bad, capitalism=bad, green anything=good, big gov't=good, big spending=good).
 

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