Fuel in those quart cans ?

I bought a Husky brush saw and to extend the warranty i had to buy the premix husky fuel. Dealer says it is good in open can for 3years and unopened for 5 years. Wonder whats in this stuff that makes it,supposedly that good? I see others are making Trufuel, and Stihl also is selling it.

Husqvarna has been selling fuel that way for a long time.. The local dealer was selling it by the gallon and I THINK by the 5 gallon... Husqvarna said that they would double your warranty on a brand new saw if you were running that stuff. Have never used it, but it is supposed to be "pro" grade, pretty high performance type stuff!! It is rather expensive though...


Bryce

It has a very low Reid Vapor Pressure, so it doesn't tend to evaporate. By "open" I assume you understand that to mean a container that has been opened then reclosed tightly.

Actually, ANY gasoline has a good shelf life if you can keep its container sealed so no evaporation can occur.

The last couple years I have been using premium grade gas to mix with my Sthl oil. Seems to last longer than the regular fuel. I have kept it for several months and seems to still run well.

I started using the TruFuel stuff in my trimmer and in a leaf blower when it first came out. I think it has prolonged the life of the trimmer. I run the trimmer for 15 minutes and the blower for 5 minutes, once a week. Never had a problem with either. The trimmer is 13 years old and the blower of at least 7 years old. I've never done anything to either one, except for replace the tapper (sting advance) button on the trimmer.

Tell me how many trimmers do you know of that are 13 years old and still going strong?

(knock on wood. probably just jynxed myself.)

The stuff's kinda pricy, but for no more than I use a saw, and for the convenience of satisfying my saw's octane requirement, it's what I'm gonna use. I like it.

I haven't seen it in my area - but I do like hayfarmer does. I started using high test non ethanol gas and good oil in my Husky saw, and it makes a big difference (I use the Klotz Synthetic, cause it's what my kid uses in his dirt bike - makes the exhaust smell better too)
Pete

(quoted from post at 09:50:48 11/21/14) I started using the TruFuel stuff in my trimmer and in a leaf blower when it first came out. I think it has prolonged the life of the trimmer. I run the trimmer for 15 minutes and the blower for 5 minutes, once a week. Never had a problem with either. The trimmer is 13 years old and the blower of at least 7 years old. I've never done anything to either one, except for replace the tapper (sting advance) button on the trimmer.

[b:35cd0571ab]Tell me how many trimmers do you know of that are 13 years old and still going strong?
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(knock on wood. probably just jynxed myself.)

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have one.
A honda 4 stroke,...bought it new in 2001, wife uses it maybe 1/2 hr a year.(i prefer to use the oId scythe )

Come to think of it, when I first got my Husky 288XP, the guy I got it from was a cheap old buzzard, and he was running it on E10 and cheap 2 cycle oil, and 10-30 for the bar oil (bar kept getting super hot on me)

I switched to certified non-ethanol from Co-op and I have been running StarTron in the fuel, and I think that the saw has doubled it's power...

A local saw guy has been trying to convince me to have him buy this little kit and let him bore some holes in the muffler, says that it will give it some more power, like putting headers on a car? Any of you guys heard of this? Said that the total cost to me would be about $35?

I guess I would buy a couple of quarts just to extend the warranty, then I would just start using premium gas without ethanol and a good grade of oil. That's all I have ever done and I have 5 saws ranging from 42 years old to new and I don't have any trouble with any of them. No way I would pay that inflated price for snake oil and packaging! I mix everything 3 oz to the gallon, about 43-1. The 42 year old saw recommended 20-1 when it was new, but I think the oil is much better now.

The only difference may be that it is in a sealed can, so air and moisture cant get to it.

I say that because of a 2 cycle powered post hole auger we have. The thing is made to lay on it's side when not drilling a hole, so the filler cap vent has a little screw tight valve to prevent fuel leaking out the vent when the engine is laying on it's side. With the fuel valve closed and the vent screwed shut, any old gas with the correct 2 cycle mix stays fresh for years.
We shut the vent, close the fuel valve,run until the carb is empty and the thing is ready to go again, even if thats 2 years later.

My Stihl is about 20 years old. I bought it before I had to worry about ethanol fuel so it had to be in the early 90s.

My Echo is 30 years old. It has been worked hard every summer. Always used ordinary 92 octane gas and 2 stroke oil. Only expense except from that and a new trimmer head a couple of times is a filter in the gas tank.

Having your cake and eating it too?

Instead of small engine builders using components that are compatible with common, ordinary pump gas, they insist on using components that CAN be damaged, and then turn around and sell you "special" fuel.

Kind of hints of "Al Capone" mentality.

We have my dad's Stihl weed-eater/brush cutter that is at least 30 years old and it has never even needed a carburetor kit, and it's still going strong. We always use ethanol free premium but I don't know what he used, he's been gone 21 years. Most of my chainsaws have needed a carburetor kit every 10-15 years.

our local equipment dealer promised that their canned fuel would not cause harm to diaphrams and would actually soften them after using it. I tried it on a chain saw that had become almost impossible to start. To my suprise. it started and ran much better. I use it in my weed eater and mini tiller and it has not gummed those tiny jets. {I dont use them alot.} The saws would be too expensive to use it, but I put some thru when I put them away. Have not had a carb problem in a couple years. Good stuff IMHO

I always get a chuckle out of the cans of premix. It is very handy I know or good if you just periodically use the equipment. I use ethanol fuel mixed with valvoline 2 cycle oil every day with no problems. Maybe it helps that it never sets because we use it all the time. We probably use 10 gallons a day on a normal summer day. We actually use the most in the winter on 2 stroke toro snowblowers

Yes, with Stihl 1127 series saws, well the same "family" of saws that the MS390 is in, I believe each model or just the 290, 390. Apparently, the overseas version of that saw is factory built with the exhaust modification and carb settings, that U.S. saws do not have.

The modification for this one is done by increasing the air flow which is accomplished by enlarging the holes in the muffler or making additional holes. I am not sure if there are dimensions for the additional holes or increased air flow in total. I thought I saw an overseas factory muffler side by side with a U.S one. In any event, they just enlarge the muffler ports, and the main exhaust port after the spark arrestor, then adjust the carb accordingly. Now some may be able to do that by ear, but I would think a small engine tachometer would be called for to check RPMs after your adjustments. I think with the model I speak of, its 13,000 rpm's max. (don't anyone quote me, just for discussion)

I have seen this modification in more than one forum, and on you tube, however, one should use care in regards to this information and modifying their saw, meaning that carb needs to be adjusted correctly, if not, it could cause engine failure.

In theory its just letting the engine move more air, it should run cooler and provide more service life given the previous. I would also imagine the saw will be louder. I have a 390 and seeing that it was designed to be built with this modification, and is only restricted by U.S. emissions, I would like to do the same to mine, one of the videos on you tube looked simple for the carb adjustment, followed by the saw in use, though I am always skeptical of getting information like this from the web, it appeared to be a simple modification that is beneficial.

Now obviously your Husqvarna is a completely different saw, but maybe its the same situation.

I've used startron and higher octane gasoline, 93 I believe, for the last few years. Prior to that, just the 93 octane fuel, in small engines, and I never encountered any fuel problems to speak of. I think the fuel storage containers are key to this, more than the additives.

Some will use motor oil, used drain oil, personally I just don't like it, it makes a real mess and does not perform like a bar oil should. My father may have used it as I recall. I've seen others use it, not for me. I cut at least 5 cord with my saw annually, so a gallon of bar oil, for me, provides plenty of cutting time, I might use 2 gallons a year looking back, 3 max if I am cutting more than usual, I don't see the value in it. Stihl bar oil is touted to be "environmentally" friendly, as it breaks down. I don't know the specifics on that, but one of the reasons I don't like motor oil is that I actually collect the sawdust and chips in a catch pan, from logs 6" and up and use same for compost and bedding for a few small critters I have, that in turn becomes enriched manure and it makes compost for my small garden patch near the back door and kitchen. There might be traces of oil here and there, but the material I collect seems to be perfectly clean of any oil, dries out and becomes dusty. I enjoy taking byproduct like this and using it, odd to some, works for me LOL !

For the weekend user and hobbiest. Purchasing canned fuel will cost less than plugged up, scored or detonated equipment .

(quoted from post at 14:23:53 11/21/14) Come to think of it, when I first got my Husky 288XP, the guy I got it from was a cheap old buzzard, and he was running it on E10 and cheap 2 cycle oil, and 10-30 for the bar oil (bar kept getting super hot on me)

I switched to certified non-ethanol from Co-op and I have been running StarTron in the fuel, and I think that the saw has doubled it's power...

A local saw guy has been trying to convince me to have him buy this little kit and let him bore some holes in the muffler, says that it will give it some more power, like putting headers on a car? Any of you guys heard of this? Said that the total cost to me would be about $35?

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If you want to look into the mods, called "woods porting", check the chainsaw section at arboristsite dot com. It's sort of like adding a straight exhaust to your hot rod. There are downsides, at least theoretical downsides. I've never tried it on purpose, but have run some saws with bad mufflers that mimic the porting. They do tend to run like crazy, but you need to tune them so you don't get a lean burn condition and you have to ensure you don't create a way for the saw to suck crap into the jug. That happened on one of the saws I was running. A sad end to nice little Homie.

(quoted from post at 18:38:42 11/21/14) I always get a chuckle out of the cans of premix. It is very handy I know or good if you just periodically use the equipment. I use ethanol fuel mixed with valvoline 2 cycle oil every day with no problems. Maybe it helps that it never sets because we use it all the time. We probably use 10 gallons a day on a normal summer day. We actually use the most in the winter on 2 stroke toro snowblowers

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Thats just the way I do it as well.My JRED saw may get 89 or it may get 92 but valvolene 2 stroke oil at 44:1always(book calls for 50:1)Same with all the 2 strokes here except the newest sled which has oil injection.I also lace the fuel in equipment that is getting laid up at the end of it's season. Run the engine until I can smell the oil in the exhaust,Shut it off and it's done.That 2 stroke valvolene is great stuff!

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