Corn silage done for 2014!!!

The boys finished up corn silage to day. We did fill the silos but only put up two 300 foot bags rather than the usually 5-6 bags.

The cattle yards at the farm will be in use but the yards on a farm we rent will be empty this winter. That way we will not have to go there to do chores everyday.

We have calves lined up from several different suppliers. The boys will be custom feeding for a couple of fellows. I have lined up some late spring calves out of North Dakota. They will arrive in early November. Plus my own calves. That will keep me out of trouble.

My middle son picked up a few here and there to fill his yards for now. He will have to sell locally as they will finish at different times.

So we will have some cattle on feed but do not expect to make much money on them. It will get better when the idiots all go broke or their bank shuts them off.

The next thing for the cattle is getting corn stalk bales made when they are dry. That maybe an issue this fall as we seem to be cooler and wetter than the last few years have been.

I did not do much with the chopping this fall. I pulled wagons one afternoon. Trying to let the boys do their own thing without me breathing down their neck. LOL That is harder than just doing the work. LOL

JD- I remember this spring that you were predicting corn around $3.00 to $3.50 and that many BTO renting at high dollar rents would be hard put.

What are you seeing in your area with BTO's?

Greg: This year looks like the income protection part of the Crop insurance Program will bail them out for THIS year. Now next year will be another story.

Figure $3 corn and 180-200 bushel yields. So a $540-600 GROSS per acre??? Then try that with $500 per acre cash rents????

JD- OUCH!!!!

Them figures don't cipher t'all

With the high yields many farmers are experiencing and expecting I don't think income protection will be much help. It also depends on each individual farmers production history.

JD, Glad you all had a safe harvest. I think your family might just enjoy doing chores with not having road time at rented yards.

there is a small profit margin if any with corn at the price it is now, wheat and milo are in the same boat and beans aren't far behind,history is liable to repeat itself,going to be interesting how some get thru it with their operations up to their eyeballs in debt based on the recent high crop prices,pay back for some of their back stabbing renting practices might come back to haunt them, crop insurance ain't going to be bailing them out either,waiting to see what input prices will be next spring, I bet the price gouging vultures won't be circling a lot as their cash cow's bones are picked clean

I put mine on the ground. I'll be backgrounding some calves on this, hay, and ddg.

oleozz: The current price protection is based on dollars earned per acre. So a high yield with low prices can still allow you to get a insurance payment if you bought a HIGH support level. Now that support level can cost you $40-50 dollars per acre.

There's a BTO up here that was big into sugar beets, they burned a lot of bridges with land owners and the owners of the beet stock they rented. This year they went big into corn, they're putting up a huge dryer and storage system, over 3 million in it I heard. One guy I talked to that's in the grain commodity field figures the BTO contracted at higher prices last fall out to 2016 or 17, he said that's the only way you could possibly pencil out what the BTO is doing.

I doubt we'll even look at our corn before mid October. Wasn't dented yet lady week when I looked at it but I think it's getting close now. Been raining so much if it keeps up we're gonna be mudding it out this year. Not to mention we still haven't gotten to chop the marsh grass for bedding yet because we can't get in there.

Donovan from Wisconsin

Kickinbull: The rented yard is only 1000 feet across the road. I may move some of the replacement heifers into the yard out of a small pasture if it gets very muddy before it freezes. I hate to see concrete empty. LOL

(quoted from post at 03:20:28 09/21/14) With the high yields many farmers are experiencing and expecting I don't think income protection will be much help. It also depends on each individual farmers production history.

Click to expand...

This is what I was thinking. They can, and will produce theirselves out of a loss. If your yield is low enough to collect, then you are still hurting.

I would think many forward contracted part of their crop, using crop ins. as a fail safe. But most people dont contract all of their expected production.

It is still gonna hurt some.

And next year? I am sure the seed, herbicide, fertilizer and cash rent will fall accordingly!!!!! Right.

Gene

One of the neighbors here said it would take 180 bpa corn to break even. I have no idea what he was using for cash rent basis but that will be more than tough on some of this ground. I lost some rented ground to a BTO because the owner wanted corn so bad and I wouldn't do it. It wasn't corn ground. The BTO cash rented and put in corn. 2/3 of the field won't see 125 bpa. I have a feeling that BTO will dump it and I may get a call to rent it back. I was kind of glad to see that junky quarter go. I won't be renting it for any amount. The pasture portion was convenient but a hot thistled mess. Forget it.