OT: Sons of Guns

dgasper

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Does anybody watch Sons of Guns? Discovery channel permanently canceled the show due to charges against the main character Will Hayden. Must be serious stuff.
 
Never watched it,but I know it doesn't take much to get in trouble. The shop where my son works builds guns and gun parts. They had a shipment of silencers come in and the A T F came in and seized all of them. The guys protested and said they made it through customs alright. Didn't matter,they took them all.
 
Yes, I enjoyed the show, well the actual work and what some of the guys were doing in the shop, but those darned producers have to add drama, lets say I like and enjoyed the subject, some of the old pieces that came in, and the big stuff like many of the military weapons and guns, plus some of the new items, suppression systems, the survival utility one they built, that folded up, there's good and bad with all these shows, I don't watch much TV, just before heading upstairs. I also like the one they cancelled in Colorado, the owners son exhibited some nice engraving work, that is something to appreciate, just like Tom on Mountain Men, they never show enough of this content, always some other garbage, but some of these people are really talented and you get a glimpse of what they do, you learn things, that's what I like.
 
That's beyond words, its just beyond any comprehension, media is involved here, but they state the charges, unreal to think of someone doing these things regardless. Happens a lot, middle age men, can't control themselves, give in to temptation of the most perverse kind, I don't get it, any of it, no rationale human does these things, human race has some very serious problems today.
 

Family dynamics are tricky and there is always more involved than meets the eye. Allegations like that are easy to throw around years later and it is quite common in domestic disturbances for these things to be alleged. Until we know the entire story, and both sides of the entire story, you should not form an opinion.
 
I agree, just the initial jolt of hearing something like that, something I truly hate, but we are far removed, one would hope its false allegations with bad intent for character assassination or something for tabloid crap, someone being spiteful, vindictive and or worse.

Well.... back to my mired tractor, sunk up to the cast housings, now that's a real problem, called a neighbor with much larger tractors, even tried the log method chained to the back tire, not even close.
 
That is truly bizarre. I can't imagine what must be going on there. Maybe false charges were brought by a vindictive ex, or maybe they're true. In any event his life as he knew it is over.
 
if it is true the guy should hang from a rope. The show stunk anyway, too much BS drama and silly testosterone.
 
I hope its not true, not because I like him or the show, I just hate hearing stuff like this going on.

Here's a question. What is a legitimate punishment if these allegations are false and made up?
 
(quoted from post at 23:54:52 08/27/14) Does anybody watch Sons of Guns? Discovery channel permanently canceled the show due to charges against the main character Will Hayden. Must be serious stuff.

Like others have mentioned I hope it's not true. He said it was false accusations. I guess we will know the truth shortly. I never did care for the show because of his attitude and the drama. I preferred American Guns that came on discovery. It was a good show and showed more of the actual work being done,and naturally Discovery canceled it and left Sons of Guns on.
 
Saw a similar thread on a gun forum I get on occasionally. Some of the guys on there actually know the man and said that they don't think any of the allegations are true. In fact they said he is still recovering from other false allegations made by a jilted ex girlfriend, so they were figuring the idea was to go ahead and hit him hard, again, while he is still down.

With the charges involved, his life, and career are basically over. He has even been forced to distance himself from Red Jacket, his own business due to the whole ordeal.

Personally I think IF he did what he's accused of, a public whipping followed by a hanging is way too good for him. If not, unfortunately the stigma is still there and he will always be punished to some degree, while the accuser will typically go scot free.
 
I rarely watch the Discovery Channel anymore, same with the History Channel. I do catchup on Myth Busters once in a while.
 
I don,t have any idea if the charges are true or not but I do know there is a stunning difference between how this has been reported and assumed true by the media compared to similar charges against others. I think there is no question that because the man is in the firearms business the media wants all of this to be true.
 
The other thing I was thinking about; If convicted that would make him a felon and access to guns would be forbidden.
 
(quoted from post at 01:04:51 08/28/14) I don,t have any idea if the charges are true or not but I do know there is a stunning difference between how this has been reported and assumed true by the media compared to similar charges against others. I think there is no question that because the man is in the firearms business the media wants all of this to be true.

???

When DOESN'T the media assume that something like this is true before all the facts are out?

Reality is it doesn't matter. When you get accused of something like this, guilty or not, you're guilty and screwed for life.

That said, the show jumped the shark a long time ago. The ridiculous contrived impractical "custom builds" that are clearly half-a$$ed and only APPEAR to work due to camera tricks and pyrotechnics just make the show even dumber than it was originally.
 
I have a relative that spent ten years in prison for something he didn't do.But the town had a supposed rape and needed a body.When the facts finally got out. Two cops,one doctor and a lawyer ended up in prison.

All the state would tell my cousin with mental problems. Was sorry about that.

Be careful when you accuse someone.
 
I had not seen it lately . I liked the show and I liked Will too. He seemed a little hard to work for but he was a Marine so I like him. If those are the charges I find it a little hard to believe.
 
A lot going on here. Apparently the 12 year old daughter first claimed a family friend molested her when she revealed her injuries to a doctor. Later she claimed it was her father. Some (questionable?) sources have postings from the daughter Stephanie (shop manager) that claims she too was molested by her father but that she thought he had changed.
 
Actually this is his second arrest for raping a minor. The first one was the daughter of an employee - they claimed it was sour grapes for getting fired. The second is his own daughter claiming to be raped by him several times over a 2 year period.
 
Agreed. To be honest I thought it had been off the air for over a year. They took themselves waaaaaayyyyy to seriously for being just a little gun shop that did some custome work that was waaaaayyyy over priced. Some of their bigger jobs (cannons?) were clearly outside their area of expertise and they had no business doing. I always got the idea they crossed thier fingers and hoped for the best when they worked on that stuff.
 
If it were Topeka Kansas the DA Chad Taylor would refuse to file charges if he followed standard operating procedure. I have had some first hand dealings with that individual.
 
I never liked the show, could not imagine treating any employee, or anybody for that matter, with such arrogence and contempt. . If, and that is a big if, he is found guilty of the charges, I will be happy to show up to weld his prison door shut. Also, I seriously doubt the guy was a Marine. Love to se his DD214
 

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