Home School

JD John

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Most of our older generation was home schooled. My mother taught me TO APPRECIATE A JOB WELL DONE .
"If you're going to kill each other, do it outside.I just finished cleaning."
2. My mother taught me RELIGION.
"You better pray that will come out of the carpet."
3. My father taught me about TIME TRAVEL.
"If you don't straighten up, I'm going to knock
you into the middle of next week!"
4. My father taught me LOGIC.
" Because I said so, that's why."
5. My mother taught me MORE LOGIC .
"If you fall out of that swing and break your neck,
you're not going to the store with me."
6. My mother taught me FORESIGHT.
"Make sure you wear clean underwear, in case
you're in an accident."
7. My father taught me IRONY.
"Keep crying,and I'll give you something to cry about."
8. My mother taught me about the science of OSMOSIS .
"Shut your mouth and eat your supper."
9. My mother taught me about CONTORTIONISM.
"Just you look at that dirt on the back of your neck?"
10. My mother taught me about STAMINA.
"You'll sit there until all that spinach is gone."
11. My mother taught me about WEATHER.
"This room of yours looks as if a tornado went through it."
12. My mother taught me about HYPOCRISY.
"If I told you once, I've told you a million times.Don't exaggerate!"
13. My father taught me the CIRCLE OF LIFE.
"I brought you into this world, and I can take you out..."
14. My mother taught me about
BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION .
"Stop acting like your father!"
15. My mother taught me about ENVY.
"There are millions of less fortunate children in
this world who don't have wonderful parents like you do."
16. My mother taught me about ANTICIPATION.
"Just wait until we get home."
17. My mother taught me about RECEIVING.
"You are going to get it from your fatherwhen you get home!"
18. My mother taught me MEDICAL SCIENCE.
"If you don't stop crossing your eyes,they are going to get stuck that way."
der generation was home schooled!
 
That's a fun piece and it is so trueeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Seriously, we get around quite a bit where we encounter several families with home schooled kids. In general, as compared to State School educated kids, they are more polite, more articulate, more sociable (even talk to us old folks lol), and most test out much better then State Schooled of the same age.

Im NOT knocking public school teachers, most are hard working dedicated my hats off to them. They have to work within the confines and restrains of their particular systems and administrators and government regulators and do the best they can with what they have to work with I figure, so God Bless them and I appreciate and thank them.

It was strange and been a while so I may not recall this correctly, but I think some person ranted somewhere on here once that home schooling was CHILD ABUSE (can you believe that!!!!) lol. If that's child abuse then call me an abuser fan because the many many many home schooled kids Ive encountered are far more educated and polite and articulate and sociable then their public schooled counterparts.

Thanks and God Bless all teachers be they home teachers or state teachers, its an often under paid under appreciated job I sure couldn't handle, especially nowadays when they get sued if they don't do something just right grrrrrrrrrr

John T
 
John, you certainly do a lot of growling and use a lot of extra letters.....
Sometimes it makes your posts harrrrdddddd ttttoooooo rrrreeeaaaadddd.
Other times it makes one wonder what you are growling about....or do you just like to growl? grrrrrrrrrr.
 
We have at least six public school employees in our family. If they were teachers, they retired wealthy. My brother in particular, took a State buy out last year and retired early. Every single blessed family event he sits there and talks about how much money he has. Trips to Europe, cruises in the Mediterranean, stood in Red Square. On my end I can say I had a couple teachers that I remember fondly out of the several dozen that taught me over the years. Many were openly abusive...verbally, psychologically, and sometimes physically. Time moved on and next thing I knew I had kids of my own in school. Teachers are still the same, they just don't hit you anymore. When contract time comes up some would be OK but others would treat your kid like dirt until they got the money they wanted. A couple years ago I had a teacher/client complain that they were going to be asked to contribute a PORTION of their health insurance costs. I suggested that maybe it was time, since most of my other clients already were doing it at work. She got quiet, then gathered her records and walked out of my office. Ten year client, never heard from again. In Michigan they have the best benefits available. While there are a few that are ultra dedicated and do an outstanding job, as a group I have found them to be disappointing as people. This is why so many people are home schooling I think. My youngest graduated last Spring and I am glad to be shed of them.
 
I sure would not have the patience or smarts to home school !!!!
My kids were on their own with homework past about 1st grade !
 
How could home schooled kids learn to be more sociable in a home environment where they have no classmates their age around them to interact with. How could they learn to function as part of a work team if they are the only person in a class at home. A one person team? They likely have lower social skills as a result of home schooling than public school students.
 
Mr. Peabody,

I don't know what experience you've had with home schooling, but, unless you are purposely speaking facetiously, I find your post to be entirely uninformed.

I have a great deal of experience with home schooling, and socialization is the least of the problems I've experienced or observed.

I know lots of home schooled kids who play team sports and work extensively on group projects.

Home schooling is not for everyone, but it is vastly superior to government schooling for most.

Tom in TN
 
JohnT,
Have you been following what's going on at Dugger, In school? It sounds to me like they will be using online courses.

I'm not 100%, I think Indiana has created home school online classes. Is that what's happening at Dugger?

For those who don't know, the school board wanted to close down a community school and send the kids to another school. The locals said no, got the old Dugger school building, have their old Dugger football team and opened a charter school, on line classes and some teachers. Perhaps someone could fill in all the blanks, I'm not 100% sure all the details, just know the school board doesn't always gets it's way. Sounds like the school corp lost a lot of kids they thought they could move to another school.
George
 
Home schooling is everything any of these institions profess to be.
We have some very intelligent students, socially equal in any
form. Tax money to the districts has a lot to do with so called
concern for students to attend public schools.
 
If my children were school age now, I would home school in a heart beat. I don't believe in the common core theory, nor all the socialisms being taught in public schools.
In my opinion, and its not very humble, public schools fell apart when teachers weren't allowed to paddle a kid. Of course a good number of parents now days don't paddle their kid either.
 
Some Home Schooled kids are great and some should never have been schooled at home. Some parents are great at the schooling and some barely got out of school themselves.Some home school for the right reasons and some for all the wrong reasons.I have two in the family who work in the school systems. One in public and one in private.
 
Have never seen any study or evidence than home schooled kids are any smarter more sociable or easier for folks to talk to or superior in some way to public schooled kids. Many if not most family's are two income parents both have jobs, and parents not available to home school. The vast majority of students in our working society are products of public school and are not inferior to home school students as this thread suggests. Some parents see more disciplined learning environment in a home situation and that is probably a reason for the home school choice. A person paying taxes pays for public school teachers & school system whether they use them or not that is their own choice. Just the premise that one system is vastly superior to the other doesn't compute in my opinion.
 
My daughter home schooled her five and was affiliated with a home school origination. All five played on home school and church sports teems. All five are outgoing, hard working people with better attitude and social skills than most that I have been around.
I don't think there should be a worry when kids are home schooled for the right reasons.
 
My sister home schooled. For the most part her kids, my nieces and nephews are most socially inept young adults I know. And they did have some social interaction but only with other home schooled kids from their church. From what I understand those young people are about like my sister's kids.

Rick
 
Hmmm, that's odd. It was two or three years ago that every news service in the country was reporting that test scores for home schooled kids was noticably higher than public schooled kids. Having said that, I will say that I have a relative who home schooled her kids and she was completely imcometent to do the job. So you do pose some valid points.

Having witnessed the quality of education my grandkids are getting, if I had kids today, I would be very reluctant to allow them anywhere near a public school without monitoring their progress very closely and making darn sure I supplimented their education, particuarly in the areas of history and Constitutional law, the sciences, mathematics, economics (ESPECIALLY economics) and possibly English also.
 
Part of a public school education is the social education that is necessary for life in the big old world and it comes free. From what I hear some of our public schools provide our with students more social education than curriculum.

Just yesterday Marilyn, who is a retired public school teacher, and I were talking about how well disciplined home schooled kids are. Home schooled kids as a whole see a wholesome family life that is rapidly dwindling in our country. A good family life usually means the kids are raised in an atmosphere that teaches respect for others. Curriculum-wise, here in Iowa the home schoolers need to meet state educational standards and most of them go to the public or private schools for some of their high school education.
 
My concern would be what you touched on in the first paragraph. Is the home school teacher qualified to teach and what is being taught. And would an institution of higher learning over high school accept the home schooled diploma in the event the student wanted education higher than high school. If a student chose college and his or her education diploma was not accepted where they wanted to go then they are up the creek w/o a paddle. Now trade school probably no problem. Public teachers are highly trained and certified, they do the best they can w/ tons of gov red tape & political correctness wrapped around them in todays world.Our schools here are rated on a five point scale. If they get a 4 or 4.5 rating they must be doing something right for our students. They better be with all the millions we send them.
 
Public schools in our nations capital have had less than half its students rated proficient in elementary math and reading. If the teachers are highly trained and certified, and doing the best they can as you assert, why are they failing more than half the time?
 
MR. Peabody: They MIGHT be behind in what many call social skills BUT they have an education that they can use. Many public school kids are just a little more than illiterate.
 
I've seen some of these home schooled "kids".. One measured a piece of metal for me, and it came out 26 inches and 2 little lines...... Come on....Really ??? Some were home schooled simply because they wouldn't take orders or constructive criticism from teachers.. Public schools aren't perfect, but I feel interaction with others makes you a more rounded individual ..
 
Big thing now is online home school... Daughter is a school social worker - she works for a couple of the on line schools - telephone, online conversations, home visits - she has students all over about a third of the state. Pay mileage, time spent... She may be the only human contact with the "school".

That said, there are home schools that have all kinds of social activities, sports, etc. Have a prepackaged curriculum with all texts, workbooks, handouts, assignments that must be submitted... About all that's missing is the building.
 
I think some do it for the right reason and educate them better than the local school system and others are just hiding from life.

My kids are open enrolled in a nearby large high school, because it flat out provides a better education. The kids should come out of school with about the first year of college completed. They really push the kids to succeed, and transfer the trouble makers to a high school that is set up for that. The school is VERY diverse, but the kids are really there to learn.
 
Mr. Peabody,
I have one of those poor home schooled kids with no social skills. After finishing the 12th grade at home, he went to a 4 year college where he graduated "Summa --- Laude," (believe it or not,the middle word will not pass the YT filter) and also in the top 4 percent of his class. He did't have to look for work, because a "Microsoft" company recruited him, through the college grade point averages. He also bought a house and got married within a year of graduation. As far as social interaction early on, I always refer to a school in Colorado in 1999.
 
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!a!!!! I homeschooled an orthopedic PA and a county attorney. They, obviously, have EXCELLANT social skills. They learned a good work ethic on the farm and did NOT learn all the nonsense in public schools that passes itself off as education. They participated in youth activities through our church and community. They are what is right about our society.
 
The students are the ones that are failing, for a myriad of reasons. Lack of family structure, incentive, failure to even show up at school, attitude, lack of discipline.....on and on.
 
Mr Peabody:

"A one person team? "

I guess you have never seen the U.S.Army recruitment posters & commercials about the "Army of ONE!"

LOL!

:>)
 
I don't know who would want their kids "socialized" in your average American middle and high school. The results of that type of socialization are the idiots we see all around us, playing the "knockout game", spending more time on the cell phone or computer than actually interacting with people, smoking pot rather than doing homework and getting a diploma anyway. IMO, based on 2 adult children, 2 school age kids and 20 plus years of police work, public schools are fine for about 30% of the kids. The rest get pushed through and never learn a thing. Any one who thinks the "socialization" public schools produce is good has not spent any time around the results if that socialization.

We start homeschooling this year. Putting 2 special needs kids in our middle school would be criminal IMO. And since my wife has her Masters in Education I'm pretty sure at least one of us is smart enough to handle it. BTW- my kids are 11 and 12, don't have cell phones, don't get unlimited TV, don't have on line access without supervision, don't argue about chores and if we have our way will not become more failed public school debris.
 
Jd Seller and Mr. Peabody......I agree with both of you. My wife home schooled one of our daughters (the youngest) because neither one of them could stand to not be with the other. She started home schooling her in the middle of the first grade. This youngest daughter stayed at home for all twelve years of school. She is brillant. She attended college, graduating in 3 1/2 years, majoring in mathematics. 'Went on to get her Masters degree in economics, and is currently working on her Doctorate. She is doing this while being currently fully employed by a natural gas company in Houston where she trains all their clients on how to use their computer software. She makes big bucks. She "also" barely knows how to pour water out of a boot. She has very few friends, calls home EVERY day to talk to her mother, lives in an apartment with her cat......and likes it that way. I tried to teach her how to change her tires if she ever had a flat. She refused to learn. I said...."so be it". In so many ways she is a social recluse...yet she works well in her job place with others. When she was about 12 yers old, I let her start to run the 4-wheeler. She liked it. I thought, "well maybe this will bring her out of her shell". She rode that thing for about two weeks and then parked it. 'Never to get back on it. I asked her if she had had an incident with it. She said, "no, I just don't need to ride those things". Go figure.

So you see, BOTH of your opinions are correct.
 
(quoted from post at 12:43:08 08/28/14) Jd Seller and Mr. Peabody......I agree with both of you. My wife home schooled one of our daughters (the youngest) because neither one of them could stand to not be with the other. She started home schooling her in the middle of the first grade. This youngest daughter stayed at home for all twelve years of school. She is brillant. She attended college, graduating in 3 1/2 years, majoring in mathematics. 'Went on to get her Masters degree in economics, and is currently working on her Doctorate. She is doing this while being currently fully employed by a natural gas company in Houston where she trains all their clients on how to use their computer software. She makes big bucks. She "also" barely knows how to pour water out of a boot. She has very few friends, calls home EVERY day to talk to her mother, lives in an apartment with her cat......and likes it that way. I tried to teach her how to change her tires if she ever had a flat. She refused to learn. I said...."so be it". In so many ways she is a social recluse...yet she works well in her job place with others. When she was about 12 yers old, I let her start to run the 4-wheeler. She liked it. I thought, "well maybe this will bring her out of her shell". She rode that thing for about two weeks and then parked it. 'Never to get back on it. I asked her if she had had an incident with it. She said, "no, I just don't need to ride those things". Go figure.

So you see, BOTH of your opinions are correct.

Chances are that has little to do with where she was schooled. It's her personality. I know a lot of people that are products of public schools that can barely function in society. To put it simply, sending a kid into a public school shark tank is a 50-50 chance they will develop good social skills at best. I know quite a few home schooled people that get along fine in social situations. School is no fix for social awkwardness. School is known for pushing a lot of the truly social troglodytes to suicide, drug abuse, gangs, etc. though....
 

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