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pat sublett

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I heard a respected scientist say that those we put in power had better hurry and make hay out of Global Warming because we were already in the second year of a well-established 62 year period of Global Cooling. He said this was based on well-known cycles of the sun which is the real cause of weather fluctuations. I have no doubt that he is right. I recall when my youngest daughter was about 6yrs old, she was concerned because she had learned at school that we would freeze in the dark, because of the coming ice age. Children that age believes anything they hear as well as a lot of naive older people. She is 50yrs old now.
 
Pat,

Based on your child's age, I would guess that you and I are about the same age.

I remember well the scare of the early 1970s when we were all going to freeze to death.

Do you remember the talk that was all the rage at the time, that we needed to "knit-up the hole in the ozone layer"? If we didn't do something quickly, it was all over for mankind.

Hmmm. Sounds sort of familiar today but for a different reason.

Tom in TN
 
(quoted from post at 13:01:34 07/25/14) I heard a respected scientist say that those we put in power had better hurry and make hay out of Global Warming because we were already in the second year of a well-established 62 year period of Global Cooling. He said this was based on well-known cycles of the sun which is the real cause of weather fluctuations. I have no doubt that he is right. I recall when my youngest daughter was about 6yrs old, she was concerned because she had learned at school that we would freeze in the dark, because of the coming ice age. Children that age believes anything they hear as well as a lot of naive older people. She is 50yrs old now.

When I was in HS waay back in the early 70's, I read an article that said weather runs in 1000 year cycles. Within those cycles there are 500, 100 and 30 year cycles. It made sense then and still does.
 
I do not know about temperatures, but in NW Arkansas, it has been dry for several years. So far in July of this year, they have received 2/10in of rain, while Weather Underground indicates the average rainfall should have been 7.36".

I sympathize with farmers plants and animals.
 
The biggest question for me, are we influencing it, for real, if so then there is validity in changing our ways. IF its beyond that with all the other associated nonsense, a cycle, a pattern, someone with an agenda is trying to sell us a bill of goods, shame on them and the big wheel they want to use to steam roll us.

I can't comment beyond that, no facts, sure the ice caps are melting, rising seas, we know that, its measurable, but beyond that, do any of us have quantitative facts enough to make statements that mean anything ? I for one, do not.

My opinion is, that if we as a race, world included are our own worst enemy by destroying or compromising our environment, then we need to change our ways, that is common sense, problem is we don't have enough facts visible to the common person, at the time its needed if, there is in fact impending doom, staying the path we are on. I'm not for taking chances, so that 50 years from now, (and I won't likely be here, but still, thinking of others) people have determined they were right either way, hopefully correct that its a natural occurrence.

I can go either way, its a bunch of crap, to heck with it, global this or that, phooey!!!!! LOL ! Or, yes folks, theres a problem, and if there was, wouldn't you, the good steward of the land, want to institute change ? I don't know, be ignorant, self focused or think of others, and to what detriment our actions affect those, its a mighty big question and scenario to consider, without a lot of plain, quantifiable facts to work from, at the time it needs to be done, which is now, if there really is a problem.

Weather wise, we had a good old fashioned winter, a real spring, and summer has been plentiful with both enough rain, heat, humidity but not in excess as other years, which typically we were seeing high heat, in July, some in August, '10 was a brutal summer here, I was soaked in sweat from head to toe working in our barns, miserable, humidity and drought like, does that mean global warming, I don't know. This summer so far has been ideal, relief with cooler drier air from the north following every hot/humid spell, other years it would linger, winter with below zero temps and lots of snow. Its always changing, that's how it is.
 
I can remember sitting in elementary school with my little head spinning,worried about the new ice age that they were pounding in to our heads too.
These dolts who are scaring the devil out of kids these days with this garbage should be put in prison for the rest of their natural lives. There's no reason on Gods green earth for those low lives to be telling kids garbage like this.
 
Does any of this ring a bell? It's the same "proof" that the same people offer today,but in 1975 it was a new ice age.

The 1998 Farmers Almanac had a long article about proof of a 750 year cycle of heating and cooling.
Cooling world
 
i think it's about the almighty dollar, one statistic i would like to see is how many scientist and politicians put swimming pools in and kids thru college in the name of "global warming".
 
(quoted from post at 17:26:25 07/25/14) Does any of this ring a bell? It's the same "proof" that the same people offer today,but in 1975 it was a new ice age.

The 1998 Farmers Almanac had a long article about proof of a 750 year cycle of heating and cooling.
Cooling world

That could be the article. Just from experience we have a bad drought here about every 20-30 years. My Grandpap said his grandad always told of the Civil War drought in the 1860's. He told of the droughts in his lifetime during the late 19th century until about 1903. Then again in the 1930's and 1953-4. I remember 1980-83 and again in 2011-12.
 
I hope all the folks that think climate change is a myth are right. Because if not, my children and grandchildren, and yours, will have a very different world to live in and probably a very bad lifestyle. I'll be long gone.

I don't know who is going to get rich off of the changes to the economy if we make alterations to reduce man made carbon pollution, but I can give you a list a mile long of the people that will be hurt financially, starting with the producers of coal, oil, autos, etc etc etc. You can bet they are "aginit"

I don't know the real climate change situation any more than you do. I just hope we are not the "flat earth, sun revolves around the earth, sail off the edge of the world, turn lead into gold, automobiles are just a fad", prognosticators of our generation.
 
Please explain how scientist and politicians "they would make a lot of money" espousing their beliefs?

Versus

How others (energy suppliers and utilities) would lose a lot of money if the changes were made?

Facts please?
 
R12 was too cheap, the companies making it could make much more profit selling the replacement refrigerant. Same with R22 now.

Plus the changeout of heat pumps, etc meant more profit and also made the economy look better at our expense.

Just like the high price of Gasoline makes the economy look better.
 
(quoted from post at 19:48:13 07/26/14) Please explain how scientist and politicians "they would make a lot of money" espousing their beliefs?

Versus

How others (energy suppliers and utilities) would lose a lot of money if the changes were made?

Facts please?

Look into the money spent Edd, the grants, the programs, the studies and tests and research. The proof in there. The same goes for the other side. As far as the 2nd part of your question, ask the coal industry how it's doing right now. There's your answer. Outlaw or out-regulate coal emissions, as promised by The One, and the industry folds. Make gasoline and diesel emissions more expensive and you force people into alternatives like incredibly expensive electric cars that are made by big donors to certain politicians. Follow the money. Follow the Solyndra type stories where well connected progressives got their campaign money pay back or simply took the money and ran.

The larger issue is simply money and power. We all sit around and criticize Exxon/Mobil, BP, etc. for their huge profits. We sit there and talk about how "they" jack the price of gas up every holiday. When is deadly cold and propane and fuel oil are running $4-5.00 a gallon we have little choice but to pay out. That's money and that's power that someone else wants. It means being able control the little people and push them int he direction you want. Always remember that in every society, even the most ardent communist society, there are always those "more equal pigs" that get the good food, the mansions, the limos, the trips to some free country where the healthcare is better, etc. That's what this is all about. That's what the underlying reason for the big guns pushing this is. Yeah, there are the sincere, concerned little guys that really believe and want to change the world for all our benefit. And then there are those that need a job and will produce the desired results for the boss and quietly shove the studies and research that don't agree with the agenda under the rug. Considering that when the Cold War ended and a lot of research scientists were let go in the following years, and then turned up in the climate change industry a few years later (I think I still have the reports on that bookmarked) it makes sense. They needed to eat, pay the bills, etc.

The climate changes. Man can have an effect. Crippling the western world while doing nothing about China, India, Russsia, etc. is not an answer. Taxing the western world, the US in particular, into submission sure would meet some of the agendas out there though. And of course that would work towards the wealth redistribution aims some have. It's all to clear to me that the power and money involved make the whole thing suspect.
 

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