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I love my tractor, and I love my grandkids. They
all want to ride, but I want them safe. No one
invented a add on seat? With a seat belt, anything?
 
Put them in your truck and drive around. Keep them OFF the tractor.

Local man was giving his grandson a ride on the fender of the tractor. Man was cutting some small brush. On the next round around the bottom, he came upon the dismembered body of his grandson.

Not something I could live with.
 
(quoted from post at 16:24:51 07/14/14) Put them in your truck and drive around. Keep them OFF the tractor.

Local man was giving his grandson a ride on the fender of the tractor. Man was cutting some small brush. On the next round around the bottom, he came upon the dismembered body of his grandson.

Not something I could live with.
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If he did not notice the kid gone until the next round, it probably did not affect him much anyway.
 
I agree. I was asking because I am foremost
concerned for their safety. I would want them right
beside me, or on either side. I am not some idiot
who does not care. If I didn't care I would not
have asked. I am not talking about even letting
them ride while working. I am talking about taking
them for a ride. No plow, no bushhog, nothing.
 
Sure are a lot of faint hearted people on this board.
Sheesh!
I spent countless hours riding on Cousin John's JD 530. Standing on the axle, hanging on to the big cultivator handles, no fenders, no nothing. Plowing, discing, raking, baling, but not mowing.
Laughing, singing songs, telling stories.
A lot of folks here were never on a tractor in their life till they bought an 8N or something and are scared to death of the things. Can't even operate them without wetting their pants.
Don't let a bunch of tremulous worry warts spoil your fun. Be careful but let them ride and bond with you. Teach them good, safe things around tractors.
Those are memories that will last a lifetime.
 

UD people die all the time who were raised up on tractors. A few years ago a man here rolled himself up in a hayroll.
 
My grandpa made a big bench seat for his 8n to give us grandkids rides on ad used old belts around the seat bracket and us as a seat belt
 
Farmall M. When my son was about 6 or 7 I bent a piece of 2" pipe and welded flanges to it so it would bolt to the fender holes on the axle. I made a small chair like seat for the other end. I used 2 tie down straps for seat belts. The only person that got hurt was me when I would crack my elbow on the apparatus. Ellis
 
When my son was little, he is 14 now and is 5' 8" tall I would let him sit right in front of me on the same seat. I let him steer and I worked the foot controls for the hydrostat. But, never with the brush hog.

I am trying to get him to learn how an engine works and the transmission too so that he can know how to drive it and respect it.
 
Dog Gone it Dog, the safety police will be burning big banners at your house. Haven't you learned yet that the only safe place for todays youth is in the house on the couch playing video games and shooting people. I'm sorry folks, but I have to agree with dog on this one. All my grand kids have learned to operate all of my equipment including the dozer. My 12 year old grandson mows hay with the drum mower and loads it onto the truck with the skid steer. I too rode the old J.D.A with no fenders standing on either the axle housing or the drawbar. Even rode the old drag around several fields before I was old enough to drive the tractor. Folks, they are your kids so you do as you see fit, I'll keep on teaching mine to be productive members of the community. Just my thoughts, Keith
 
How many city people die in car wrecks every day. One in how many farm people die from farming accidents. I agree any is too much, but as a Safety Professional myself, I have always looked for the root cause of an accident. I can't help but wonder what the guy that didn't miss his grandchild till the next round was thinking (or where his mind was). I guess it comes down to each his own.
 
Let them play on it while not running of coarse let them touch it put there hands on parts of it while you explain what that part is for and what it does. I think if you use Common Sence all will be fine.
But nevr let your guard down on safty. My grandkids always enjoy me riding them around on my 135.
 
Won't be the first to say I rode the fender on pre- '65 ford, and learned to drive it while doing so, subsequently spending a lot of time later on in the seat of that one. To me it seemed safe, but I had been around tractors and equipment since very young.

Currently, I just don't see it being a safe practice, I would want to modify it, add something like a seat with a restraining belt, and not be doing any work, like mowing or in the field, given bumps and unknown things that could happen, yet I did the opposite as a kid, and never gave it a second thought. I used to rest my feet along the cast housing and lean onto the fender, there is no way I'd allow any kid to do that. I never even recall anything even remotely ever being dangerous and I'd ride along with every implement we had.

Maybe I over think things, and am overly cautious when it comes to safety, and youngsters, but one of these really do not have much room and a kid could fall off easily enough.

I would think you would be able to fabricate some sort of a seat that may allow a small passenger, from the factory mount, might not eliminate the risk's 100% but I'd feel a lot better knowing that passenger was safe and secure while riding along.

I can remember riding along on the fender in road gear, and just imagine a spindle failing or a front wheel bearing failing or falling off, that may not have worked out so well, probability very low, but these are old tractors.
 
Some pictures of 2 seat IHC Bs and BNs. Operators seat was offset on that model for "cultivision" and space available for the passenger seats- might be picture in the archives with one. MF 35 to 65 series variations with a wide bench seat- European variations in UK have seat belts and rollover protection so passenger is safe as operator. JD 4400 series had a couple models with the wide bench seat- I think it was a 4430 I rode in to get to combine in field with other driver. Ford Jubilee followup to the Ns- couple bench seats on a few noted, not sure about the ROPS. Long- sort of Ford N lookalike made by a Romanian Fiat licensee and imported various outfits- maybe Zetor also had a double bucket seat example shown at show-owner install?- and a wide 2 seat bench in catalog option. F20 Farmalls with a wide board on drawbar common, can stand on them and seats have been seen bolted to them hauling couple extra people- sometimes rear facing. RN
 
WHOA, I think I might have not have expressed my idea in what I intended. I AM NOT the safety police and never tried to be. I only stated my thoughts because of the accidents that have happened.. I did not mean to sound as if I were trying to "admonish" the OP on his idea. I was posting only due to stories I have heard about 'tractor' accidents killing youngin's.

IMHO, there is no 'safe' way. I'll continue to do what I do and you continue what you want to do. I was giving my opinion.

No malice intended.

Greg
 
I think a wide bench seat may be an option using the original mounting design. Close at hand and probably more comfortable that hard metal anyway. Thanks I will look up some of those pictures.
 
I ride my grandkids on a tractor from time to time. Never with an implement unless it's on the 1206 with a cab. Can't fall out of that one. My kid rides are on an 8N or Farmall M in the drive only and like I said no implements attached. Once they get too big to be on my lap they don't ride, until they are old enough to learn to operate.

You can be safe without going overboard.

Seat belt on a tractor without roll over protection isn't much good should the tractor roll.

Rick
 
The safety police would have had a cow if they saw my three brothers and I driving dad's Farmall A to town. One driver, two on the drawbar and the youngest straddling the gas tank like a horse. It sure beat walking.
 
I think it depends a lot on the tractor structure. I started by riding along on Oliver 60 while cultivating, one foot on the hitch frame and one on the axle housing while leaning against the fender.
Later on the bigger Massey Fergusons, they had nice flat fenders with that built in handle above the headlights, no problems there.
Not sure how the old Fords would be. I used to run a late 60"s 4000 and that wasn"t very user friendly for a rider. I would never ride a youngster on a tractor without rear fenders.
I don"t know how else a young person would learn to run something properly, by the time I started operating those tractors on my own I knew what I was doing only because of all the hours spent riding along.
That being said, it"s a different era now.
 
The friend I hay with all the time has an autistic son. He's got a JD A with a double wide bench seat. That works great.

The kid's in his 20's so it's very safe. I've also used it a lot to take my kids along too.

One problem I will say, at least with an A where the brakes are left and right - hitting the left brake isn't always an option with kids feet in the way.

You also have to be VERY sure there are no hanging shoe laces, etc to catch in the spinning brake drum!

It's all as safe as you make it. NOTHING is 100% safe in this world, but just use good judgement and never get sloppy with the rules.

Account for every possibility. I don't take that tractor on hills with a kid because I might only have the right brake.

If you're pulling an implement, don't even think about bringing the real little ones. There are too many stories to remind you why it's not a good idea.

For the little guys - limit it to simple rides. Work is work - and not a place for toddlers. Letting kids come of age to do real work with you emphasizes to them the seriousness of the equipment involved.
 
If you're just looking to entertain the kids, perhaps a small wagon and a couple bails of straw. That way, everybody gets to ride at the same time and they're relatively safe without being bubble wrapped and locked in a vault. If they have to be on the tractor, I'd suggest a carry-all. Mine is 4'X8' and can support 500 lbs. easy. The carry-all also allows them to peak over your shoulder if you're trying to educate the next generation of hayseeds.
 
A hay ride all together on a hay wagon. Dad used to do it when we were kids for the cousins that came over from the city. Farmall H pulling a hay wagon of noisy, yelling and cheering kids around the fields and orchard. I have a couple of nieces that I once took for a ride, one at a time on one of the Deeres sitting in the seat behind me as I scrunched up to the wheel. Tractor police might have arrested me for that as well as them not wearing helmets, knee and elbow pads and...

Good luck, and love them grand children.

Mark
 

Carlis, you are wise to be concerned. While tens of thousands can tell stories of what they survived, it is just human nature to need one's own personal experience to get their attention. Most people used to smoke and few used to wear seat belts. The people that die or get maimed are usually not out in public where they would remind people to be safe. There is a huge national industry caring for tens of thousands of head injured people. One home used to be a customer of mine, and they have similar homes all over the country. How about building a sort of box with a seat that you can put them in and raise it up to your level. With seating for 3-4 you have fewer waiting.
 
When us 4 older siblings were riding the "bean bar" on the front of our family"s 3010, my then 4 year old sister road in the 3 point pig carrier on the back. Mom made Dad secure the door to the carrier, and she played on a blanket with some of her toys for hours. I am not familiar with your ford, but could something like that work for your situation ?
 
Just use common sense and be alert. You already know you don't have time to react if pulling an implement so you're on the right track. The carry-all idea is good. If someone falls they'll just land on the ground.

I was on the local VFD for a number of years and never went on a call for a tractor accident. There have been several though for youngsters hurt, seriously hurt, from 4-WHEELERS and MULES. And the single biggest source of hurt and killed children was motor vehicle accidents. I saw some things I wish I could un-see.
 
(quoted from post at 16:11:31 07/14/14) Could someone email me about passengers on tractors. I have 6 grandkids, and a old Ford 800. They want to be with papa. What would make it safe.
[email protected]
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According to my Father-inlaw , Fire Chief in a rural district for 27 years. My sister the Paramedic and ER nurse. Plus my own 10yrs on the Fire and Rescue.
There is no way to safely give tractor rides . I thought the funeral home staff did a very good job on the last run over 3yr old. They had an open casket and you could hardly see the outline of the tractor tire treads across the neck, face and head.
 
That and go into Amish areas and see an Amish boy that would look to be five or six standing straddle of the back gangs of a tractor disc driving a team of horses across the field. One foot on each gang leaning back with the reins keep him from falling back wards.
Watch the Little Girl
 
There are responsible adults who can safely give rides. Those adults recognize unsafe places and conditions a child should not be. Then there are those that think they are a responsible adult and are unable to recognize those unsafe places and conditions. There is where the debate starts. People that think they are a responsible and are not do not know they are not. Then you have those that judge others that also do not know the difference and bring out the slings and arrows like Fearless Fosdick shooting everyone that differ in opinions other than their own.
 

Dick I am sure that pretty much the whole world is waiting for and deserves to know, how we can all tell whether we, or someone in control of a risky situation that we are a party to, is really responsible and knows, or if they just think they are but are not really.
 
To all of you who have replied to this post. Thank you. Even some which have been taken as negative by others, I do not take as negative, but these are the very reasons I asked Tractor people the questions. Many have mentioned a modified 3 point carry all. Does anyone have pictures. This may be an answer. I want to be safe, I want my grandchildren to know history, and experience it, I want them to know of hard work, and living with what God provides. Thank you for every post.
 
(quoted from post at 20:01:38 07/14/14) That and go into Amish areas and see an Amish boy that would look to be five or six standing straddle of the back gangs of a tractor disc driving a team of horses across the field. One foot on each gang leaning back with the reins keep him from falling back wards.
Watch the Little Girl
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$1850 per horsepower . Muscle 500 hp car would get onup there.....$925,000 ! :wink:
 
Carlis Baker: I took an old three point pig carrier and narrowed it up. I then put two school buss seats on each side facing the middle. I made the rear gate swing off one side.

This would kind of look like a man basket used on pallet forks.

I will have to get a picture of it to post.

When I was a kid my Grand Dad had a TO20 He made a seat that would bolt to the swinging drawbar and then hooked to the cross drawbar on the three point arms. So when you set in the seat your feet rested on the cross drawbar. I road many a mile in the pasture field checking cattle on that seat.
 
(quoted from post at 20:46:54 07/14/14) To all of you who have replied to this post. Thank you. Even some which have been taken as negative by others, I do not take as negative, but these are the very reasons I asked Tractor people the questions. Many have mentioned a modified 3 point carry all. Does anyone have pictures. This may be an answer. I want to be safe, I want my grandchildren to know history, and experience it, I want them to know of hard work, and living with what God provides. Thank you for every post.
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ou see them often in parades & search of antique tractor show might turn up something. Have seen but can't remember where. I'll add the Oldtanker's response is good too. Flat smooth ground, not working.
 
I welded up a platform and bolted it to the tractor.The pedal tractor is bolted to blocks underneath the rear axle and then bolted to the plywood platform. This allow my Grandson to pedal his tractor when we are moving. My Grandson also has a seat belt on.
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Hi
I guess you would agree with me that the guy on you tube that was filmed, with 2 small kids sitting on his knee and tractor fender during a small town tractor pull, although not going fast was just plain stupid then.
Regards Robert
 
The correct and safe answer is "Dont".But as a kid in the late 50s/early 60s,my brother and I each rode for hours on dad's 8N fenders.I have let my son ride on a seat,seat belted on the SuperM.Just be aware and above all BE SAFE! accidents happen in blink of an eye! you never see them till it's too late.Enjoy some family 'bonding' time.ride the tractor around the yard.....But keep em off in the field.
 
Very true...If many years ago our Dads hadnt let us ride on tractors when we were young, then we would have never learned how to drive one..
 
Carlis,
I have farmed my entire life and I feel that if I can only finish out my farming career without someone getting hurt on the farm I will feel that I have been a success. I rode on the fender of a Farmall M when my Dad was alive till I must of had calluses on my back side but the policy here now is only if the tractor or combine has an enclosed cab is anybody alowed to ride. Way too many tragedies to take that chance.
 
No passengers, no children riders, it's not worth the horrible 1 in 10-thousand tragedy.
My brother's words as he fired up Pop's old buzz saw and tried to saw a 8" log, gonna show me how good it worked, all rebuilt and all, when it shot out a piece of 8" log about 100 feet;
"Why it's never done THAT before!"
Uh-huh.
 
We've all done it, and it is a lot fun for everyone at first.

It can become a hassle or even trouble when the kids start following and chasing after the tractor or after the pickup hoping for another ride. It's not easy to get kids to understand that they can't be around a running mower, a feed grinder or a running grain auger because they can get hurt. It becomes impossible to watch out for them everywhere, all the time.

I've tried telling the women to watch them closer, but the response is often "You created than problem, you deal with it". That ended the tractor rides until they were old enough to learn to drive it.
 
Carl is if you'd like I can email you a picture if the bench seat my grandfather made for hid ford it has worked well for years
 
Rides can be done safely on some tractors but I woulden't use my 801 to do it. I have used the old M with no equipment and 1st gear. Even let my grandson drive it in a flat yard at low idle in first with paw paw walking alongside and helping him with the turns when he was about 3 or 4. Course 1st at low idle on an M is about as fast as a tarapin.
 
Yes I agree, in a cab where they cant fall out. As a kid I spent many a happy our riding in the tractor cab with dad. Many years ago our local Massey dealer had a request from a farmer to fit a child's car seat, complete with safety belts etc in the cab of his new tractor prior to it being delivered to his farm, the thought behind it being that if the little lad was inside the cab with granddad where he could see him all the time, he was not liable to get under the wheel or get wrapped up in any machinery. Anyway just to make sure they would be on the right side of the law The dealers contacted The H.S.E. (Health and Safety Executive, they deal with safety at work here in The UK ) to ask if would be OK to do so "NO WAY" came the stern reply. Now most modern tractors are fitted with 'buddy seats' but I seem to think it is still illegal to carry minors on tractors here.
 
(quoted from post at 17:39:40 07/14/14) How many city people die in car wrecks every day. One in how many farm people die from farming accidents. I agree any is too much, but as a Safety Professional myself, I have always looked for the root cause of an accident. I can't help but wonder what the guy that didn't miss his grandchild till the next round was thinking (or where his mind was). I guess it comes down to each his own.
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Where his mind was? Hard to work and babysit at the same time.
 
(quoted from post at 17:57:04 07/14/14) Sure are a lot of faint hearted people on this board.
Sheesh!
I spent countless hours riding on Cousin John's JD 530. Standing on the axle, hanging on to the big cultivator handles, no fenders, no nothing. Plowing, discing, raking, baling, but not mowing.
Laughing, singing songs, telling stories.
A lot of folks here were never on a tractor in their life till they bought an 8N or something and are scared to death of the things. Can't even operate them without wetting their pants.
Don't let a bunch of tremulous worry warts spoil your fun. Be careful but let them ride and bond with you. Teach them good, safe things around tractors.
Those are memories that will last a lifetime.
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Agree 100%. Yes, you have to be careful and yes you have to THINK about what you are doing. But giving a kid a ride on a tractor is not a death sentence. You do it at the right place and right time, not when you're in a hurry on bad ground and what not.

A lot of the same people who would never put their kid on their tractor will buy them an ATV and turn them lose!

I wonder how many of these horror stories, the ones that are actually true, involve an adult who was drunk. I've seen a lot of dead kids and adults and a good percentage involved alcohol or drugs.
 
Please, do. I will come up with something. I have seen old farmalls and others with bench seats. I know they were for offset steering, but that would work.
 
I grew up riding on tractors with grandpa, and dad. Somehow I lived. Now I will not even consider it. I would much rather bury that tradition than a child.
 
son and now grandson, puttin around at low rpm in low gear on smooth ground. They don't know the difference, it's the noise and size that makes them wide-eyed.
Carry-all works too, but they all want to 'drive'!

On the seat between my legs when young,
not on my knee, fender, etc.....they like to 'steer' anyway.
And c'mon, of course no implements, work being done, etc
Little bigger, THEY get the seat, I take the awkward spot.
Learning to drive, they get the seat, throttle control gets locked out, about idle only.
String from my wrist to the coil wire on a gas engine lets me stop things instantly if need be.


With my grandson, I worry far more with 4-wheelers, go-karts, and mini-bikes.
And every time my old now son asks me for one of my old muscle cars, ya know the 400hp, unibody, manual drum brake, monsters.....nope, too dangerous. LOL
 
I am all over this 3 point carry all idea. After
I started looking, I need one anyway. Just need
to make is so it can be modified for different
uses. Thanks to all the post on this forum. I
have found another attachment I need. Will it
ever stop growing?

There are some great designs. I will have bench
seats on each side (removable). Man the tractor
can do so much more work like this.
 
(quoted from post at 08:07:10 07/15/14)
(quoted from post at 17:39:40 07/14/14) How many city people die in car wrecks every day. One in how many farm people die from farming accidents. I agree any is too much, but as a Safety Professional myself, I have always looked for the root cause of an accident. I can't help but wonder what the guy that didn't miss his grandchild till the next round was thinking (or where his mind was). I guess it comes down to each his own.
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Where his mind was? Hard to work and babysit at the same time.
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Then why the hell was there a kid on the tractor with him?
 
A neighbor was bush hogging with an old rickety 9N.

No ORC on the PTO shaft.

Kid riding on the tractor; a boy that our kids played with all the time.

Kid fell off and ended up under the mower.

Took at least 2 squads, a couple of fire trucks, several sheriff deputies and two coroner vans all day to clean up the mess.

The sheriff wrote it up as a "farm accident".

Guess what - the tractor operator was president of the local FOP (police union).

Myron
 
(quoted from post at 22:53:26 07/22/14) A neighbor was bush hogging with an old rickety 9N.

No ORC on the PTO shaft.

Kid riding on the tractor; a boy that our kids played with all the time.

Kid fell off and ended up under the mower.

Took at least 2 squads, a couple of fire trucks, several sheriff deputies and two coroner vans all day to clean up the mess.

The sheriff wrote it up as a "farm accident".

Guess what - the tractor operator was president of the local FOP (police union).

Myron
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Yeah, and if the guy had had zero connection with the police and he'd been charged with manslaughter or something the very same people would be crying foul about it. What horse puckey. You want to charge someone with something, how aobut we start charging parents who buy their kids ATVs and turn them lose to get killed or to damage other peoples property? Up here there'd be multiple arrests every day.

I've arrested a lot of people I knew well, was related to, had been to my house or there's for dinner, stuff like that. My kids have been arrested and I've gotten tickets. Being a cop or friends with one is no surety of special treatment.
 
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