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Tractor Talk Discussion Forum

one of my farm trucks is sick

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ericlb

07-08-2014 05:21:49
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ok this one is a 1983 chevy flatbed dump, it has a harsh hoist sissors lift with a electric over hydraulic dump pump, now the thing is really struggeling to dump, nothing is wrong with the ram, and harsh hoist only services the ram,and the lift assembly, the rest isnt theirs, no name on the unit, which we ordered new with the truck in 1983, i cant find any rebuild stuff for the pump on the innernet,and i really need this truck. anybody found something for theirs? what about converting to a hydraulic pto pump on the transmission like the larger dumps have, cost?

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504

07-08-2014 19:06:15
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
They have units in stock



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Wheatfarmer

07-08-2014 17:44:22
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
Did you check the oil level? Did you check the oil and see if it was normal color or a lot of foam color. Drain it and refill. If it is foamy heat a glass jar of it in a pan of water. That will tell you if it is air, or water.



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rustyfarmall

07-08-2014 14:37:42
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
There is a belt driven pump available. It mounts on the engine, and is driven from the crankshaft pulley. It uses an electric clutch, kind of like an air conditioner compressor. I have limited experience with one of those on a Chevy 1 ton with a roll back flatbed. All I can say is that pump worked very well.



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Dr. Walt

07-08-2014 13:16:14
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
Try this: Free downloadable parts manuals.

If you know your Model # , one of these should be of help.

Doc



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AlanA

07-08-2014 06:28:35
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
[quote="usa made"](quoted from post at 13:59:39 07/08/14)
2nd that. Cables, cables, cables! Starters, winches, and computers, cables are the first place to look when something is squirrely.



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jon f mn

07-08-2014 06:15:10
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
Are you sure it's not the hoist pivots seizing from lack of grease? That is more common that a pump going bad. Make sure you are looking in the right place before you start tearing things apart.



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usa made

07-08-2014 05:59:39
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
[quote="ericlb"](reply to post at 13:21:49 07/08/14) you may want to check your power source (Connections,wires,alternator,battery).we have a 63 chevy with electric dump.it takes a lot of power had similar problem. Weak battery and alternator could not keep up.



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Notjustair

07-08-2014 05:41:38
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
Have you verified that the electric motor is in fact turning like it should? Hydraulic pumps last a good while and unless the thing has been cycled 10 times a day I would start with the electric side.



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mkirsch

07-08-2014 05:36:11
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
BTW, if you "really need this truck," now is NOT the time to be fiddle-farting around trying to find the cheapest fix. Time is money, and you are not making money fretting over spending a few dollars to fix your down truck.

If you an live with it, live with it while you shop around, but if it's down, be willing to spend a little more for a more immediate solution.



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mkirsch

07-08-2014 05:32:34
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
Does your truck's transmission even have a PTO? Being a 1 ton it probably has a TH400 or 4-speed manual pickup truck transmission, so it won't have a PTO.

If you can't find a name on the hydraulic unit, you are never going to find parts. There is no point in even looking. Your only choice is to buy a new hydraulic unit or try to fit another pump in place. It depends on what you have.

Go to surpluscenterDOTcom and poke around their hydraulics section. See if there's anything that looks like what you have. Order it. Make it work.

You can also hit the local junkyards and see if there's an old dump there with an electric over hydraulic pump that you can cannibalize.

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ericlb

07-08-2014 05:41:07
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to mkirsch, 07-08-2014 05:32:34  
thanks, this truck does have as pto plate on the transmission, which is why im wondering if im good replacing the electric unit or going to a pto unit, i dont intend to ever sell the truck, its worth far more to me than it ever will be to anybody else it runs good, parts are easily available and simple to install



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Steve@Advance

07-08-2014 07:54:02
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:41:07  
If you can find a used one the PTO would be a good long term fix. Best if you can find one still intact that you can personally take off, be sure you get everything you'll need. The wrecking yard monkeys don't tend to care about the details.

Buying new would be costly!



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ericlb

07-08-2014 05:22:29
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 Re: one of my farm trucks is sick in reply to ericlb, 07-08-2014 05:21:49  
should have mentioned the chevy is a 1 ton



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