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Re: High electric bills

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06-11-2014 10:30:34

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12 to 14 cents per KWH is the average USA rate when all the charges are figured in for grid power. Some areas as low as 7 cents and some as high as 35 cents. Alaska and Hawaii are the highest and West Virginia and Louisiana are the lowest.

That even goes for Jennifer who is doing the cyber-chuckling with her solar. She is probably paying more then most grid users when all is factored in. And yeah - I know - how dare I say something potentially negative towards a female.

There IS a reality and it's very easy to read through expense records of solar users - off and on grid. Just a comment on facts and nothing personal as some imply here. Anybody that changes to solar only because they think it will save them money has a screw loose. There are many valid reasons to do it - big savings is not one of them.

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06-11-2014 10:42:09

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 Re: High electric bills in reply to jdemaris, 06-11-2014 10:30:34  
The thing about solar that you have to factor in is that it is not destroying our environment by burning coal, or using up natural gas that can be used for better things! The thing I don't like is at our cabin we pay $38 for the meter fee and then $.14 a kw. If I was starting over I would stay off the grid for the cabin.

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06-11-2014 11:27:42

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 Re: High electric bills in reply to Russ from MN, 06-11-2014 10:42:09  
Because the manufacturing of the solar equipment and batteries (and disposal) are friendly to the enviroment because it is delivered from fairyland on the backs of unicorns.

A lot of toxic metals and chemicals are used to produce the panels and batteries.

Modern coal plants main release is CO2 - a trace gas that helps plants grow.

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06-12-2014 04:42:54

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 Re: High electric bills in reply to DaninKansas, 06-11-2014 11:27:42  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Beat me to it. :lol:

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Russ from MN

06-11-2014 14:57:13

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 Re: High electric bills in reply to DaninKansas, 06-11-2014 11:27:42  
Most of Minnkota's power comes from lignite.
The emissions generated from firing lignite, as with any coal, include the criteria pollutants
particulate matter (PM), PM less than, or equal to, 10 micrometers in diameter (PM-10), condensable
particulate matter (CPM), sulfur oxides (SOx), nitrogen oxides (NOx), carbon monoxide (CO), and total
organic compounds (TOC). The other pollutants generated include greenhouse gases, organics, trace
elements, and acid gases.

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06-11-2014 11:07:32

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 Re: High electric bills in reply to Russ from MN, 06-11-2014 10:42:09  
Off-grid has its pros and cons.

The huge problem with off-grid is - there is NO way to store the extra power you make. No cost-effective way, anyway. You can have a day when you make 20 times the power you are using and it ALL goes to waste.

The nice thing about off-grid is the equipment is MUCH cheaper. You can buy uncertified solar panels at half-cost (or less). Same with electronics. You can buy an off-grid 3000 watt inverter for $250 instead of paying $1300-$2000 for a grid-tie inverter.

As to solar being green? I doubt it. An awful lot of coal and petro fuel is used to make and ship solar equipment and batteries. I doubt in the end -they are much cleaner when all is factored in. Certainly they seem greener when only the end-user is looked at.

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06-11-2014 11:30:18

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 Re: High electric bills in reply to jdemaris, 06-11-2014 11:07:32  
Agreed. I looked into wind power as a suppliment "on grid" to lower my electric bills. Even with government tax credits it was a deep hole that would never pay for itself.

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