Nice Safety feature

JRSutton · Apr 20, 2014

So I'm out spreading some fertilizer on my lawn with my garden tractor - run out of gas.

No big deal, grab the new gas can that's been sitting outside all day - 1/4 full or so, enough to finish the job.

It has one of those stupid twist-and-push-in-to-pour nozzles...

It was a little hard to push it in - I had it tipped as I was doing it, ready to pour - then POOOOF -

the sun had warmed it up so much that the can had build up a LOT of pressure inside.

Gas came blasting out like a fire hose - since I was mucking around with that stupid valve thing - the end of the nozzle was just missing the tractor's tank fill hole.

Gas deflected right back into my face. Got a lot in my mouth - glad I at least had my glasses on - they got soaked.

I've never considered a gas can especially dangerous until now that they have these safety devices on them.

It was a nice sunny day today, but it wasn't even that hot - can't imagine how bad it would have been if it were really cooking.

Be careful with those stupid things.

Think I'll be permanently removing mine.

HillsofTn · Apr 20, 2014

Totally agree! I spend too much effort focusing on getting the spout in a place in won"t slip, then putting enough force on the gizmo to release the fuel, then tilting it so that it can breathe. Then it all goes to h@ll in a handbasket and I usually end up pouring fuel where it really isn"t a safe thing to do!

Bryce Frazier · Apr 20, 2014

Well, all of these new ones have NO AIR SPOUT, just the one hole in the front for the tube. So that way it glug glug glug's as you are trying to hold 5 gallons 5 feet off the ground, that way it takes EXTRA long...

Our neighbor had three 5 gallon cans (the new ones) all FULL in the back of hie truck. Him and I parked and went in for breakfast last spring, and they were in the full sun for probably about an hour, then we drove home, 30 min, then they sat at home in the full sun for about another 1 and a half hours, and one of them actually popped and blew gas ALL OVER the place, how is that safe?

He now drills holes in them and has devised a way to make his own "air valve"...

Bryce

old-9 · Apr 20, 2014

Thank you mr congressmen. Those that make these regulations ,don't think them(laws) through. Like my pump freezing this winter because I couldn't find a 100 watt lightbulb to buy. I caught it before anything broke. And when I did find the 100 watt lamps I bought 10.

joe

Anonymous-0 · Apr 20, 2014

An illegal vent can be installed on these ventless cans, by drilling a hole, sized to fit a small tubeless tire valve stem, opposite side of the handle, from the spout. You then thread a wire through the newly drilled hole, over to the spout hole, and fish a tubeless tire stem, on the wire, and snap it in place. Then you merely remove the valve stem cap, to release the vacuum. Viola, you have outsmarted algore!

showcrop · Apr 20, 2014

The steel Eagle cans work very nicely compared to these new torture devices. When I got my generator I got a second one so that in case I was away my wife wouldn't have to try to operate the safety valve and pour at the same time.

Steve@Advance · Apr 20, 2014

Yes, they are useless.

Bought a new Toro mower for the church couple years ago, the dealer gave us a free gas can with the push down valve. Not only did it build pressure, but last time I tried to use it gas leaked everywhere around the valve.

Now I just bring my own gas in my old can, works every time.

jennifer408 · Apr 20, 2014

i think and have thunk for years, that whoever designed and passed into law, those pieces of crap should be forced to use them at least once a day, for the rest of their lives. either that or strung up by their testies and used as a pinata once a day.

RMinVa · Apr 20, 2014

I waited several years before replacing several cans I had. I use the No-Spill brand now and am pleased. They have a vent tube inside the tube where the gas comes out. Press the button with thumb and when you let go the gas stops.The vent works great on these. I always press the button before turning the can up to pour and let any pressure off.

Adirondack case guy · Apr 20, 2014

Couldn't have said it better.
I have drilled an 1/8" hole in mine at the back of the handle, and screwed a steel roofing screw with gasket in the hole that I can remove by hand.
Loren, the Acg.

gtractorfan · Apr 20, 2014

Cans like this I drill a small hole and use a cut-off nail for a plug, take the nail out to vent while pouring out gas.

37chief · Apr 20, 2014

I think more gas is spilled from those stupid cans, than people realize. I did the same thing, except I have a 5/16 bolt threaded in place of the nail. Stan

JK2 · Apr 20, 2014

Be careful using rubber tubless tire valve stems. The gasoline today is apparently very harmful to them. They fall apart which can let the large piece inside the container into your tank. I use the all metal ones with a cork/rubber gasket on the outside & they seem to hold up ok.

JML755 · Apr 20, 2014

JRSutton,
I know what you mean. I fumbled so much with the last can I bought, I just take off the spout and use a funnel.

Gene Dotson · Apr 20, 2014

I use a 1/4 inch radiator drain cock. Gasoline doesn't affect them. Rubber tubeless tire stams work well for diesel fuel, but alcohol in gasoline deteriorates them.

Gene

retired farmer · Apr 20, 2014

The plastic spout on one of my old red plastic cans broke off awhile back. Bought one of those new ones for eighteen dollars. Looked at it for awhile. If you take the guts out then there is no way to keep rain out because the idiot that designed it didn't put a cap on it. Then to top it off the spout is straight so you would get gas all over. Haven't used it yet. So in the meantime I got to looking around for something to make a new spout for the old can. Piece of electric conduit about ten or so inches long, one washer with a large hole in center. Put it in the lathe and turned it out so the conduit would just fit, welded them together, cut out a cork gasket to fit the top of the can. Plastic cap to seal the spout when done pouring. Stupid government idiots need to get a real job.

jennifer408 · Apr 20, 2014

i have been using eye hook screws for years, easier on the fingers.

Earl Gray · Apr 20, 2014

2 mistakes, never leave gas sit out in the sun, and relive pressure before trying to pour!

Janicholson · Apr 20, 2014

Comments made are sure on target. Another factor is winter gas which has a very different vapor pressure. I have seen full tanks of fuel in cars discharged into the shop. Not good. Jim

waltdavies · Apr 20, 2014

I keep the old spouts from my old cans and just replace the new spout with my old ones. Never had any trouble getting them filled.
Walt

Roy in UK · Apr 21, 2014

Talking of 'Twist and push' and 'Gas', another new I idea which I totally hate is the new design of the gas filler caps in Stihl equipment. I love Stihl stuff on the whole but this sure is a retrograde step in my opinion .

Fullers Farmalls · Apr 21, 2014

The fact that those cans are regulated to only pour about 2gal/min is ridiculous. I take the nozzles off and use a funnel. We bought a couple cause our old ones were just about worn out. Now we have more funnels then before but it doesn't take me 10 minutes to fill my tractor that has a 17 gallon tank.

D beatty · Apr 21, 2014

Thats why I take care of my old cans with vent plug in handle. This plug will pop open if the can set in sun and pressure would build up.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 21, 2014

There was a recall on some of the tanks, that use this cap. You have to take it to a stihl dealer, to see if your unit is covered. That being said, I hate 'em, too!

Aaron Ford · Apr 22, 2014

I did my cans like this from a tip off this board and really like the results. Easy, cheap, and you can find a new vent cap anywhere.

Aaron

JimEvans · Apr 22, 2014

Old gas cans now bring pretty good money at auctions. I put one of these kits on two of my cans that had broken spouts. It works very well.

http://ezpourspout.com/wp/

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