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Stuck piston and shaking front end!

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FarmallChase

04-13-2014 07:08:03
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Hey guys i am new here and I'm 16 years old. For my SAE project in FFA i am restoring my grand-fathers Farmall H. I have got the motor to the point where i can take it out but before i do so i want to get the 3rd piston from the front end of tractor unstuck. The other pistons either came out right away or came out with sleeves. I am looking for a way to get that last piston out. I have tried the diesel in cylinder hole and used a block of wood to try and pound it out but no luck. The other question i have is when we tried to pop the clutch on it we pulled it with my truck under 15mph and on our way in the driveway the front end(wide front end) the front end started to shake any ideas on either one of my problems? Thanks guys!

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showcrop

04-13-2014 18:01:41
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
The wobble is due to worn out front end parts.



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classicxl

04-13-2014 14:26:30
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
I used a jack and a piece of 3/4 inch or so roundstock and jacked up from the bottom pushing out sleeve and all, a couple i had to wrap a nylon ratchet strap from frame under block of wood i was jacking from and back to frame on same side and done same on opposite side otherwise kept lifting front tires off ground. Done same way to remove worn liners on an H that pistons were free on just put pistons in and put some ugly gobs of weld around liner just above piston to hold piston from pushing out of liner came out real easy, we were putting in new pistons and liners anyway.

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FarmallChase

04-13-2014 14:34:53
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to classicxl, 04-13-2014 14:26:30  
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thanks for all the helpful tips guys keep them coming!



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Gambles

04-13-2014 10:45:39
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
Many years ago, my dad purchased an H that had been sitting out in a field for several years....without a can on the exhaust. We overhauled it (and it still runs good today), but we had to take the oil pan off and hit the piston out with a large hammer and a piece of oak wood. The sleeve came out with the piston and the two were separated after that. After the overhaul, we put many hundreds of hours on it.

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DC3puller

04-13-2014 10:31:22
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
takes a little time but you can drill a series of hole thru the piston and bust it out or use a hyd. jack and some chains and press it out



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rustred

04-13-2014 08:20:32
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
when all fails due to an honest attempt, push the sleeve out with the piston as one unit. no popping clutches on stuck engines,... you can pop the top on soda's though!



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greygoat

04-13-2014 08:00:08
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
Pounding on the piston won"t do any good if it"s
stuck at top, or bottom, dead center. Did you
check for that ?



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FarmallChase

04-13-2014 08:01:29
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to greygoat, 04-13-2014 08:00:08  
Yes and it is stuck in the center



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DeltaRed

04-13-2014 07:41:10
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
If you popped the clutch at 15mph,its a wouder you didnt tear out the clutch,bend the crank,tear things to he!!.NEVER,NEVER pop the clutch to 'free' an engine.Remove sleeve/piston as a unit.The unit is no t useable,break the sleeve away from the piston to get to the wrist pin to remove the rod. Another thing to try(do this OUTSIDE) is to fill the cylinder with gasoline.Light it and go drink a soda pop.The heat/fire will sometimes break trhe grip of the rust.Cant help with the wobble.Get the engine running first.

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jennifer408

04-13-2014 07:36:30
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
don't have any answers for ya but welcome to YTC young blood :)



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pete black

04-13-2014 07:36:29
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  
i suspect stuck piston, engaged clutch and forward motion may have something to do with the shaking.



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FarmallChase

04-13-2014 07:38:09
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to pete black, 04-13-2014 07:36:29  
I'm guessing so.



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El Toro

04-13-2014 07:31:59
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to FarmallChase, 04-13-2014 07:08:03  

If your tractor is outside and you're away from any building I would set that diesel fuel on fire
on that last piston. The heat should free the piston. You may need a sleeve puller to remove the sleeve using a puck. Remove anything flammable.

I would check the front wheel bearings to see if they're worn from lack of grease. Most auto parts stores should have new bearings and races.

Here's a picture of a sleeve puller made by Keith. Hal

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FarmallChase

04-13-2014 07:36:10
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 Re: Stuck piston and shaking front end! in reply to El Toro, 04-13-2014 07:31:59  
Thanks i will pull it outside and try it!



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