using a graindrill

rick1 · Feb 10, 2014

i have a FB-A john deere grain drill.for you guys who have them when you are planting grass using the grass seeder do you have the grass tubes inside the grain tube top or do you let it distribute it on the ground behind the furrow openers.
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farmerwithmutt · Feb 10, 2014

behind on ground if you put in the tubes the seed well be to deep. same as if you put seed in front of openers you can get seed covered that way

Mike (WA) · Feb 10, 2014

I'd run them behind, but drag a short chain with a ring on the end behind each tube, to get a little soil coverage for the grass seed.

casenut1 · Feb 10, 2014

Not to change the subject, but the quarry pic the other day. Was that one of Kokosing's plants.

rick1 · Feb 10, 2014

the quarry was columbus limestone owned by the shelly co. it is located only about one mile north of olen corporation which is kokosing
RICK

rick1 · Feb 10, 2014

i will be planting orchardgrass i used the grass seeder last year then a neighbor told me the grain seeder would work better for orchardgrass.
RICK

paul · Feb 10, 2014

We call it a grass seeder, but actually they don't always do well with grasses with the wing on the seed. They work well for clovers and alfalfas and those type small round seed, no wings.

Real grass is sometimes much easier to mix with the oats and run through the big hopper. Plant shallow and hope for the best.

Anyhow, I like the scatter approach, let the small seed fall on the ground and let the drag chains plant it the 1/2 inch deep those seeds like to be at.

But either way works, just don't get too deep if you run it into the seed trench, those small seeds don't want to be too deep.

Paul

Brown Swiss · Feb 10, 2014

I don't know what grass you are trying to plant, have always planted to smooth brome with the fertilizer box, just dumped one ice cream pail full in per filling, seemed to work great!

JMS/.MN · Feb 10, 2014

Grass tubes outside the grain tubes. Grass seed does well when seeded very shallow- 1/4 inch would be ideal if the equipment could do it, certainly not deeper than half inch. When I had dairy I seeded 40 acres alfalfa each year, maintained 120-140 acres for the cows.

IDK the number now, but at an alfalfa seminar, speaker told how many seeds were in a pound....and about 20 plants per square foot in seeding year is a good stand.....a pound per acre could easily achieve that if everything grew. I used to seed 20 lbs/acre, then went with a culti-packer behind the drill, then a HM rubber tired packer. 8-10 lbs/acre gave me excellent stands. Rusty culti-packer cost me less than one bag of alfalfa seed..(good seed was $300 for 50 lbs)...you"re welcome to do the math.

RalphWD45 · Feb 10, 2014

I only have 8 acres of established pasture, and due to mole hills bull rolling pits,ect, It needs to be dragged and leveled each year. every spring when the freeze is over, I use my IH 10ft. V box spreader, with a mix of clover and Orchard grass seed, and drag 2 sections of spike tooth harrow behind it. I usually take the disc out first and hit the worst spots, like bull wallows. I have alternated clover species over the last 5 years, and have a pretty nutritious pasture, with a lot of rye grass and Orchard grass. I probably am wasting seed, but the results, have pleased me.

casenut1 · Feb 10, 2014

Wasn't sure if it was Shelly or Olen

just another old geezer · Feb 10, 2014

in the furrow openers seems to work better in a dry Year. It seems to work better in a damp year spread out on top around here. It's pretty much a choice of what the soil is for your where you live in your personal preferences

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