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Question About Tire Brand

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Bryce Frazier

01-14-2014 07:54:39
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Hi all, I have about 6 tires that I need to start purchasing come spring, and I started looking on Miller Tire today. Here is what I found:
5.00 x 15 American Farmer Rib Implement 4ply
5.00 x 15 Carlisle Rib Implement 4ply
AF is $85 and C is $79. I have never heard of AF tires, are they any good? HOWEVER when I went into look at each tire, the AF is tubeless, and the C requires a tube? Which one should I buy? It will go on the pickup side of a NH 68 Baler. THANKS!! Bryce

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donjr

01-14-2014 12:18:21
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
I'vs had to replace the pickup tires on the last two balers I have had. Both got just an ordinary car tire from a sports type car- nothing fancy, and on the original rim. Cost $5 for the case and mounting, and lasted until dry rot finally got them. An implement tire might look better, but not give any better service and cost a whole bunch more....



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S2710

01-14-2014 12:13:54
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
Tire guy at a show last year did not have any American Farmer brand tires. I asked him why he wasn't selling them any more and he said that the sidewalls were not holding up. Your mileage may vary.

Bob



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Mike in Mn.

01-14-2014 11:58:48
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
I have a bunch of American Farmer tires as well as other odd brands and they seem ok so far. On my NH baler I run a 11L floater on the plunger side and a over size on the pickup side, The axle is bolted in on the plunger side, there is enough room to pull it out an inch or more, drill a new hole and bolt back on so the tire won't rub.



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J.Wondergem

01-14-2014 11:42:57
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  

I run a small spare tire from a car on the pick up side of my square baler. Been working good for years.



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hd6gtom

01-14-2014 11:01:19
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
from my experience, in the tire business, American Farmer tires have a very thin casing. It you purchase them, expect some stubble damage and possability of flat tires caused by stubble. Go to your local farm tire store and see what they recommend.



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rrlund

01-14-2014 09:29:57
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
I've got AF 9.5L 15 triple rib on the front of one tractor. The trouble I've had with them was that it didn't seem to take too many years before they wore down to the cords between the ribs,then there wasn't any rubber under the cords. They looked like they should have had a few years more running on them but the tubes came through both of them and they blew out.



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dboll

01-14-2014 09:29:35
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
go find a space saver spare for a car, they are a dime a dozen



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jeffcat

01-14-2014 09:08:30
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
The only thing with a tubeless tire and a tube...be careful and let the air out around the valve hole. Some tires can take many minutes to settle in. measure the pressure several times.



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Zachary Hoyt

01-14-2014 09:01:02
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
I had to put a new tire on the pickup side of a 68 that I got at auction last spring, I put a 15" car tire that had come in on the front of an Allis C parts tractor on it and it worked great. I put a tube in it, of course. I would bet you could get a tire from a local shop for $10 or something like that that would be fine.
Zach



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Bryce Frazier

01-14-2014 08:31:05
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
Well, the reason I am asking, is because I had a Titan Tire floating around, and we put it on the rim on the pickup side. The tire is like a 6.70 x 15 or some weird measurement like that, and when you lower the pickup, it rubs on the inside side wall of the tire. Well, I got my new manual for the baler, and it says that a 5.00 x 15 is REQUIRED for the pick up side?? I assume that is to cope with rubbing! Thanks for the info, Bryce

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Leroy

01-15-2014 08:54:42
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 08:31:05  
6:70 is not a weired measurement. That was the most common size tire used for years on cars, trucks and implements, next common was 7:60 size for larger cars and equipment. And that is probably correct size for plunger side that is the heaviest side so they put a smaller 5:00 on the pickup side as it would handle the weight there. The think to look at to decide if you can use a tubeless is condition and style of rim. Tubeless has to be very good condition and with no rivits holding rim to center to leak. The automobiles tire sizes were 6:40, 6:70, 7:10, 7:60, 8:00, 8:20 & 8:90 with a few 5:90 for the smaller cars.

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DeltaRed

01-14-2014 08:16:06
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
Bryce,Miller tire is expencive.If its not a specially sized tire,shop local for a better deal.That fact and you wont have to pay shipping and local will give SERVICE,oftentimes they will mount new purchaces for free.You dont need to buy a new 'implement' tire for your baler.Most us run old used automotive tires on our implements.Unless you just 'have to have' implement tires(for a showpiece) there is no reason to 'buy' new tires for your baler.BTW,put a tube in your baler tires.Tubless tend to seep and are often flat when you need the machine.Good luck!

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DeltaRed

01-14-2014 08:25:59
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to DeltaRed, 01-14-2014 08:16:06  
BTW,forgot to mention.I recently bought 2 pair of 500x15 tririb tires.One pr Was 44.ea,(HarvestKing) the other pr, 50 ea.(BKT).This was from my local tire guy.



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DeltaRed

01-14-2014 08:21:02
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to DeltaRed, 01-14-2014 08:16:06  
The pickup side should be something like a 5.00x15.A 185/195x 15 car tire will be about perfect.The pickup side is pretty light.In doesnt take much tire to hold it (the baler) up.



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DaninKansas

01-14-2014 11:41:20
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to DeltaRed, 01-14-2014 08:21:02  
A 185-195/75/15 tire will be narrow. Don't get a 195/65/15 tire - it will be too wide.

I bought a used trailer tire that was ST195/75/15 they had just happened to pull off that day - otherwise it was headed for recycling pile.



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D beatty

01-14-2014 08:12:49
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
You can put a tube in a tubeless tire.



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kyhayman

01-14-2014 08:11:38
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
I've been pleased with both, for what they are. They certainly aren't Michelin or Belshina radials but for an affordable tractor front and impliment tire I've been overall pleased with both. Last I got were the Carlisle's with tubes and the pair a few weeks before were American Farmer. Probably bought more of the AF's this year than anything.



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onefarmer

01-14-2014 08:11:19
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
For the baler I'd buy whatever I could find cheap and tube it anyway.



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Fordfarmer

01-14-2014 08:11:12
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
Both are US made. I don't have any experience with AF, but have had good luck with Carlisle. Our local tire shop puts tubes in -every- ag tire they sell now.... too many flats with tubeless.



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Old Popper

01-14-2014 08:07:28
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 Re: Question About Tire Brand in reply to Bryce Frazier, 01-14-2014 07:54:39  
Maybe just because I am old fashioned.....but I would go with the tube type,



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