bulls can jump

keh

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Got neighbor's medium sized bull hauled to sale yesterday. Actually it's an older sale barn used as a transshipment facility for the sale 40 miles away.
I had tried to move him before Christmas. He was penned and jumped up on the metal gate and mashed it down. The loading chute sloped down hill and I couldn't back up without spinning on the damp grass so we had gone to the trouble to unhook the trailer and hitch it to neighbor's tractor when we noticed bull was out. Same conditions this time but we hooked the trailer to the tractor before penning the bull and got it in place and hooked back up to the truck. The bull loaded easily. He found he couldn't jump over the 6 1/2 foot sides of the trailer. Got him unloaded at barn. After getting tagged he decided he didn't like being in the chute, walked up to a gate in the chute and jumped over it flat footed. He was still penned in and the guys were able to get him turned around and headed back down the chute to a pen. I don't know how high the solid steel sides and gate are on the chute, estimate 4 1/2-5 feet high, but he jumped it with no trouble. Didn't break down the steel gate though. Not the worst experience I've had moving cows and now it's done.

KEH
 
Amen to that. Best things to do with them. A one way trip to the sale barn. I hate fixing things wild cows tear up , got rid of the last wild one I had 5 yrs ago.
 
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Some breeds of sheep are getting to be near the size of cattle, and they will charge and batter at gates, panels posts, whatever you give them just for the fun of it. One big Hampshire ram that we had took a liking to a new panel that we added to one side of his pen. In about two days he had it bent into a U shape.
 

Yep, black bull. He was quite gentle, neighbor fed the small group of cows ground feed by hand, cows followed him right to barn. Bull just didn't like to be penned away from the rest.

Just found a broken fence post, have to go dig hole and cut post, fortunately tree is a few steps from where the post is needed.

KEH
 
Roger what do you mean white bulls can't jump? You don't mean Charolais do you? The neighbor lady had a charolais she couldn't keep in. It was a calf she never got around to having fixed and it turned into a fine looking bull. When it reached the romantic age it kept coming over here to pay a visit to dad's cows. I got it locked in the cattle yard with a 5' high fence topped with two 2X6's and it went over that fence, crushing the 2X6's. I finally got it back in the yard and coaxed into the barn and loaded it into the back of the pickup with a 6' tall Omaha Standard livestock rack. It wasn't in the pickup more than a couple seconds when it went over the top of the rack and lit in a pile on the ground. Awesome sight but maddening. Broke a top board on the rack. Got it back in the barn, the neighbor lady called someone with a covered livestock trailer to come get it and Romeo went to the sale barn.

You are right about angus though. They're the first ones to find a way over or through the fence. Jim
 
A joke. It was a movie,White Men Can't Jump.

The worst breed I ever say for jumping though was Solare (sp). I rented one when one of my Angus bulls got hurt a few years ago. He and his calves would clear anything you put in front of them.
 
Will Rogers Colosseum, Fort Worth TX, few years back, a bull jumped the arena wall, at least 6 1/2 feet high, during a rodeo. Climbed into the front row crowd, ran up the stairs into the concession area. A few people got banged up, nothing serious that I remember.
 
I bought two bull calves from a friend because that breed was THE coming breed, Kianena(sp). Tall skinney bulls no more than a year old. They didn't like my cows or pasture they just jumped out. We put them in the loading pens they jumped out twice right over the gate never touched the gate. The third time I parked the trailer 12 feet from the gate put the bulls in the pens, closed the gate, they jumped over the gate right into the trailer. They were happy to get away from here I guess.
 
I raised Limousin cattle they can easily jump a 5 or 6 ft. Gate. You need to use lots of hot wires to train them. I spend half the time putting them back in. I got the old cow Ebony trained so when she was out all I had to do was holler at her and she would jump the fence to get back in.
Walt
 
Dad's jumping Herford bull caused quite a bit of imbarasment for the neighbor who raised registered Angus breeding stock. The neighbor owned shares in a high dollar Angus bull coop and thier A.I. service. He kept 2 Angus clean-up bulls with the cows after A.I. was done. Despite the fact he wisked away black mommas that dropped a black baldy,word got out and prospective buyers became suspect of his operation. For the price buyers paid for stock they understandibly expected calves from the bull named on the documents,instead of clean-up bulls. I agreed with buyers who felt the breeder should have used gomers and bred to AI bulls if cows recycled. Dad felt bad about it and switched to black bulls but it's anyone's guess what it cost the neighbor in the long haul. My brother learned from the experience and put it to use when he sold papered Angus cattle later on. He leased Brahman for cleanup,sold crosses for a fair price and offered Angus buyers confidence in what they bought. DNA testing is reasonable enough now to eleminate such thing.
 
Walt if you had said "Rosie",I would have asked "where do you live"? A farmer called to offer my son $20 to get his mean red cow with rocking chair horns off the meadow and in his pasture. Son told him no charge and got the cow back in his pasture. Next morning Jim called again insisting this time he was paying $20 for yesterday plus $20 for today. Jim said he had chased that *#@! cow his last time and didn't expect anyone else do it free. Son said ok and after he hung up he said he didn't blame Jim because that old cow will fraight train you if you aren't carful. Son pulled the plug from his shotgun,filled his pocket with birdshot and told me he wasn't sharing the 40 bucks but if I come along and drive,I might injoy this. Son stood in the bed of his truck leaning on the headach rack and said everywhere she go's,you go and when I slap the cab you blow the horn one long blast. He slapped,I honked,he shot and the cow ran for her life. When she reached the fence,he slapped,ect,ect and he busted again just before she cleared the fence. It didn't break her of getting out but sure made it easier for Jim to put her back in his pasture. When she heard his truck she would throw her head up and watch until the horn honked then she would demonstrate where the term"high tailing"came from.
 

Some things are not to be. Chainsaw wouldn't start, decided to put in T posts. In the process of loading posts, driver, and some wire in the loader bucket, I noticed the front tractor tire was flat. Pumped it up, did the work, will see if the tire stays up, but it probably won't.

KEH
 
(quoted from post at 10:25:57 01/06/14) I raised Limousin cattle they can easily jump a 5 or 6 ft. Gate. You need to use lots of hot wires to train them. I spend half the time putting them back in. I got the old cow Ebony trained so when she was out all I had to do was holler at her and she would jump the fence to get back in.
Walt
still had some limousin cattle when i first started in bison.
The polled limo bull decided to jump the 5' page wire fence and challence the 2 big bison bulls i had.
I thought he would be a goner if he tried to take on these massive bulls nearly twice his size.
And then the fun started as i watched this polled limo opening the fight with a roar and butted heads with one of the buffalo's.
Well they snorted and bellowed and hair and hide was flying and i could not tell who was who cause of the clumps of grass flying hi and wide and the clouds of dust envellopping the battle field.
When the dust finally cleared an hour later both bisons were out of breath and on the run with the Limo in hot pursuit
And when the Limo figured he chased them far enough he stopped and although he was sweating like a horse and missing pieces of hide and bleeding like a stuck pig he had enough breath left to bellow his victory to the world
It was a sight to see i tell ye. :lol:
 
Like Steve below, years ago I saw a Brahma-mix lope down a rodeo arena and clear a seven-foot plank fence with two strands of cable at the top. Nobody could believe it. I always wondered how he kept from losing some equipment when he went over the top.
 
If they can't jump over they migth just crawl over. A few days ago I had a Holstein cow who was in heat trying to mount a cow on the other side of a gate. She hung on her belly a few seconds long enough for me to think how the heck am I going to get her down but she just paddled with her legs somehow and got herself over and she looked as if it was just a normal thing to do.
 

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