paulson loader for 8n or jubilee

ejensen

Well-known Member
Which tractor is best suited for the loader? The jubilee I have has the hydraulic pump mounted on the side of the engine while the 8n has the pump inside the rear housing. Which system has the most hydraulic volume/pressure? I would like to be able to use the 3 point in addition to the loader. Is this possible? Use of a rear blade in addition to the loader would be helpful . I would want to be able to use a counterweight. Might have to chain the 3 up.
 
Don't believe I ever saw an N Ford with a loader powered by the tractor's internal hydraulics- always a front pump. Reason- non-live hydraulics. When clutch is pushed down, hydraulics (and your loader) would stop. Would be almost impossible to use a loader under those conditions. Not to mention the low hydraulic capacity, resulting in very slow movement of loader.
 
Mike,
looks like the best way to proceed is with s front mounted pump.Do you know what capacity pump is required? My 1957 case 320 industrial loader backhoe has a 19 gal./min pump which is a 1500psi.unitIt runs both the backhoe and loader with no problem I would guess a 10 gal./min pump would be adequate
 
Dad had a Freeman on an 8N. There's a plug that you take out of the side of it somewhere. Right hand side below the seat I think. Then the loader works off the lever for the 3 point. He had to put a shut off in the line though and close it to use the 3 point.
 
Mike,A locaL woman had a 9n set up that way.I ran it for a few minutes once.a royal PIA.Better than a scoop shovel.
 
I think 10 GPM would be about right- I have an Oliver 550 with a Freeman loader- smallish cylinders, and a 16 GPM front pump- and that pump is too much, have to continually feather the levers or it is much too fast.
 
Mike
I live in Washington. Seattle is where we live and our tractors are on Orcas Island. We are in Scottsdale Arizona now and will return to Seattle Friday. Just bought one from a tractor dealer in Washington. Its a used Paulson and the front pump is included. Bucket is controlled hydraulically and the cylinders for the loader are up only gravity down. Is this similar to yours? The unit came off a jubilee so should fit
 
Sounds just about the same. Two way lift cylinders would be nice, but one way (gravity down) works fine most of the time. One thing I've seen with two way lift cylinders is it allows you to put enough stress on the loader to break it.

Hydraulic bucket is much more important. Trip buckets (pull a trip handle, and it dumps) make it real hard to use it for loading from a pile, unless everything is absolutely level.

I'm in Chehalis- halfway between Portland and Seattle. Been to Orcas a few times- great place. Have fun with your new toy!
 
Mike,
My thoughts exactly on down pressure for loader frame. Have a 1957 case 320 industrial loader backhoe. Putting down pressure on the loader very quickly lifts the front end of the tractor off the ground. Impossible to steer with this situation so I just
put the bucket on the ground and use the bucket hydraulics
 
Mike,

Have the paulson loader on my ford jubilee. Hydraulics driven by a front mounted hycraulic pump. I am very pleased with the unit. Pins are tight in all places on the loader.
Think I got the only one available in the U.S. Talked to someone at the company that bought the paulson loader system from the original company. They will custom make a loader a tremendous price.
Cost more than the tractor is worth.
 
OK everyone so far has failed to mention that a loader on a non power steering tractor is a PITA. I have 8Ns. I would not even consider putting a loader on one. My loader tractors are a 1206 IH with power steering and a TLB with power steering. I have 2 8N's and a Farmall M. No loaders. 8N sized? I'd buy a skid steer. More lift capacity and easy to operate and steer.

Rick
 
The steering is a pain, but if you are so inclined you can
add PS to a Jubilee. That's what I did.
This was taken while I was fitting it.

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