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Re: Roofing Scam

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Edd in KY

10-25-2013 19:54:04
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Big Ruh, Please excuse the sarcasm of my earlier post. Just being a smart azz. But, I am just tired of the inconsistency of the people on this forum and America in general.

We want law and order. Which means we must have laws (rules) and order (law enforcement). Then people complain about the laws and the strucure we put in place to enforce them. America, make up your mind.

Too bad so many folks only want laws which protect them..not vice versa.

Same is true of free enterprise. Thieving and piracy might be called free enterprise, but that guy on your roof was not a business man....he was a con artist. Big difference.

Still, can not understand how they could arrest him...for what? He had to have violated some law, or his rights were violated.

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TomH in PA

10-25-2013 23:05:41
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 Re: Roofing Scam in reply to Edd in KY, 10-25-2013 19:54:04  
No inconsistency here; this has nothing to do with free enterprise or individual freedoms. This is criminal activity.

Unlikely the guy was a con artist though. The offer to replace the roof for $20K was his way of getting told to leave and not come back. He needed an invitation to leave because he wasn't there to sell a new roof.

Did he talk with a very thick accent, stutter, or other speech impediment? They use that to keep you off balance while they BS you. Best way to counter that is to pretend you're deaf and make him keep repeating what he's saying so you have time to think it over. But walk around the house first to make sure the doors and windows are secured. Chances are good there was a second guy hiding somewhere, the one on the roof was a lookout

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oldtanker

10-25-2013 23:25:04
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 Re: Roofing Scam in reply to TomH in PA, 10-25-2013 23:05:41  
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Tom they have had this "home repair" scam going on for quite some time. Lot of time the homeowner hasn't been on the roof and has no real idea of the condition. They show up uninvited, unannounced and tell you your roof is in bad shape and that they can protect you and your house, if pay up front and I'll be here in X number of days with the crew. Unsuspecting homeowner falls for it, writes a check which is promptly cashed and the "con-tractor" disappears, never to be seen again. They worked that scam up here a few years ago. Got 2-3 people, mostly elderly to sign a check and fake contract and were gone.

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oldtanker

10-25-2013 21:14:59
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 Re: Roofing Scam in reply to Edd in KY, 10-25-2013 19:54:04  
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If had just been in the drive he wouldn't have been trespassing if the drive is not posted or doesn't have a gate. He was on his roof. That's trespassing for one charge. Trying to run a con is also illegal. That's trying to defraud, that's the second charge. When the OP was able to tell the cop that the roof was new a couple of months ago the con man had made the attempt to defraud. So if the cop decides to haul the guy in to run him through the computer for possible other wants or warrants the cop was on firm legal ground. I don't know how long they can legally hold him in the OP's state but certainly long enough to run a check on him. If the prosecutor decides to actually charge the guy he can then be run in front of a judge to determine if there will be bail or not.

With the arrest the cops can impound the vehicle and have it towed too.



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