9600 ford disappears water

1attila · Apr 10, 2012

Using 1 1/2 gallons of water a day, can't see any white exhaust and no water in oil. Crankcase blowby is white and plentiful. Engine seems to run good but hard to start. Can't see a leak anywhere. Does anyone have a suggestion on where to look? Thanks for your suggestions

Bill(Wis) · Apr 10, 2012

Sounds like a head gasket. Water is probably homogenizing with oil. Eventually it will start to look more like chocolate milk than oil. It can do this without putting out white smoke.

RodinNS · Apr 10, 2012

Does the remaining coolant look dirty? Most times the Ford's will develop a head gasket leak and allow combustion gasses into the cooling system and they then proceed to push their coolant out the overflow... It's possible that it could be burning some at the same time. Generally coolant in the oil with those things indicates a perforated/pinholed block....
Remove the rad cap and get the engine warmed up... then watch for bubbles and black froth in the rad. That's what you're most likely to find.

Rod

rrlund · Apr 10, 2012

Are those wet sleeves? It's a long shot,but my 1020 Deere was doing the same thing. One sleeve was pitted real bad and finally cracked all the way through. The crack was high enough that it seemed to be pulling water in through the crack above the rings on the intake stroke then vaporizing it when it fired. Freak thing for sure.

NY 986 · Apr 10, 2012

Check the radiator hoses for seepage. I've got a tractor right now that will only very mildly seep when cool but will leak when the system is warm and creating pressure. The new hose will be here tomorrow. The ground only now is really getting fit to do work so I am not losing much at this time.

Anonymous-0 · Apr 10, 2012

(quoted from post at 06:56:39 04/10/12) Check the radiator hoses for seepage. I've got a tractor right now that will only very mildly seep when cool but will leak when the system is warm and creating pressure. The new hose will be here tomorrow. The ground only now is really getting fit to do work so I am not losing much at this time.

Check em good... especially if you aren't running antifreeze.... My little tractor was driving me nuts and it turned out to be a hose connection that was getting blowdried right away. Had already bought the waterpump because the only hint I could see was at the bottom bolt. Could be sumpin serious, but check the really stupid stuff first.

mark in boonville ny · Apr 10, 2012

they are non sleeved unless its been rebiult then it would be dry sleeve.

1attila · Apr 10, 2012

Oil looks ok. I drained and refilled it to be sure, and no water. Water in radiater doesn't bublble or act under pressure. I've checked hoses and rechecked hoses, replaced the water pump.
The only thing, there is white smoke when started and it starts hard.

mark in boonville ny · Apr 10, 2012

maybe your injector pump and injectors need rebuilt . my 9700 poured black smake out when i got it and last yr i had it rebiult and put new injecotrs in and it doesnt smoke anything like it did. thats the only thing i can think of. you should look into doing that.

Hurst · Apr 10, 2012

Send off an oil analysis. That will get you pointed in the right direction.

Hurst

Anonymous-0 · Apr 10, 2012

aggreed ,,, pull the valve cover and take a look ,,, i would bet you got milk gravy in there ,indicating , a cracked head , or head gasket ,, if its hard to start ,, you are looosingv compression somewhere ,, btw , the motor will run ok ,, but you will knoew sumthin is up ,, you could try solder seal ,,

RodinNS · Apr 12, 2012

SOme white smoke on start up and hardish starting is not an entirely uncommon occouronce on those things when they get some hours or have poor injectors. If the smoke clears off in a few minutes I wouldn't get too concerned unless you've got a pile of money you need emptied from your wallet.

Other than that... if it's still losing water beyond the half gallon or so it's going to lose if you fill to the cap... take a very hard look at the weep hole on the water pump and all of the hoses, the rad AND the heater core if it's got a heater. It's got to be going somewhere...

If it's going into the combustion chamber... short of a crack into an intake port... it's going to push combustion gas into the coolant.
If it's going into the oil you'll see it eventually... So if you don't see evidence of either of those two I'd say it's leaking externally somewhere and evaporating and you just don't see it yet.

Rod

mark in boonville ny · Apr 12, 2012

park in on a nice clean concrete floor and see if theres a puddle under it in a couple hrs.

OliverMan1855 · Oct 25, 2013

I think I am having this happen to my ford 8000. My coolant is very nasty looking, looses half a gallon in short while. I also have coolant drips out of the vent tube on the valve cover but no milky oil, I did have this grayish white crap in my vent tube and oil fill neck. But the oil is black, very hard starting from what it was when I put the motor in this spring. Also the tach jumps all over the place between 200 and 300 rpm when cranking with the fuel off, never had that before, also some oil on the radiator hose neck inside.

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