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Re: Getting a truck title

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Title forever? define 'forever' and 'most' states. 1980s might be start of titles in some states- that was when federals started 'suggesting' it. You note New York didn't, I had to get a title for a 1981 Georgia little scooter and Alabama had a registration form that had a bill of sale/inspection line- no title, useful for some car and motorcycle thieves to get a 'application' from Alabama, fill it out, pay the 'application fee' with its payment date noted and then use that as a 'title apllication' in Illinois and some other states. a year later when the stolen vehicle MIGHT be found out stolen the Alabama clerks were blamed- they pointed to the state law and the application form that said not complete until inspector signs off and ask for the inspectors name and badge number recorded on the submitted form- 'it doesn't have one'- clerk then asked how a idiot in the other state got a job when he was a illiterate, couldn't or wouldn't read simple form- and in Illinois case said the clerk and his boss probably took the bribe. FBI investigating usually gave up at that point- hard to argue against that line of defense when the Illinois Secratary of state dies and leaves 47 shoeboxs with title and registration forms with 'check enclosed' made out to Paul Powell and cashed into his personel accounts. VIN numbers until late 1950s were the engine numbers on a plate on the engine for many vehicles- Harley motorcycles used engine numbers only until late 1960s, no seperate frame numbers. Lots of states have a section for old vehicles transfer- if you can dig up a old registratio or a insurance form with identifiable number and owners name, you can after paying for title search, inspection usually get a new title. Might get 2 titles- one 'new' dated as of the title application/inspection date say 1970s and one from the later found registration say 1931 VL Harley vehicle so you can get the antique plate and go to the vintage shows. The 1970s SOS -Secratary of State-title and tags may end up on a newer Harley that disappeared from the police garage, not saying it happened exactly, but when Chicago police officer caught at auto show with a stolen Eagle cycle and it goes to evidence and 'disappears' the police officer can't be charged with felony theft-- and police dept pays for lost evidence with a non admittance of crime check and a take it or leave it attitude invites a bit of bad Karma(and a skilled repo man into their garage). RN.

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