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Re: farmall or allis

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I think the difficulty of finding a Diesel M (No H Diesels were made) in good condition is that most of them are in use, or scrapped/toast. There were not near as many made as were gas or distillate. They are fine strong and economical runners. They are complex and difficult to get parts for.
Though I love them and had one, and would have another, they are special, and take a special attitude to appreciate.
WD45 diesels were also rare (83,536 gasoline; 6,509 diesel) from
Gasoline M will be heavier than a WD45. They have nearly the same HP.
The WD45 will have a hand clutch based ""live"" PTO standard. The M would need to be a SMTA to have the live PTO and it would be a full independent style. A SuperM stage II would have live hydraulics, no live PTO. The tractor would also have a 5 speed with 2 ranges (torque amplifier on the fly gear change High Low)
The WD45 would need to be October 1954 to be a diesel. They are both good tractors. I like the M and SMTA for seating position and heft on a load. I like the Allis for ease of turning and the "Live" hand clutch based PTO on earlier models. A second option is to go with a 300 or 350 Farmall or the International (Utility models)
of those numbers. Those have the size of an H but the TA and live hydraulics and live IPTO of a fully modern tractor. They also might be less expensive, or equal in cost to the lower technology earlier tractors. Jim

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