super C PTO questions my first real tractor

I can"t get the PTO to operate? I have some issues getting the shift to engage and disengage. when it is disengage the splines will turn freely. When engaged I can"t turn splines, and it won"t turn while tractor is running either?
Before I start pulling apart I am wondering if I am missing something easy. I have heard of a hydraulic creeper, would that have anything to do with engaging the PTO? Any input would be appreciated.

How are you engaging it? When it's running and you engage it,you have to push in the clutch pedal then engage the PTO lever. For it to run,you have to let the pedal up. Forgive me for being so basic if you already know that.

You dont have the hy creeper its a device hooked to the belt pulley drive. Of course you cant turn the splines when its in gear with engine off. Now with the pto in gear and engine runnng does it turn with the clutch out.

When the tractor is running it does not turn the splines.Thats if I am engaging properly? I have tried engaging with the it not running then starting and it still doesn"t turn. Am I supposed to engage while running,as in push clutch engage PTO then release clutch? If so I will have to try that, but if I engage with out it running and then start wouldn"t that be the same? Unless motor needs to be running in order for proper activation of PTO. I have a feeling that I am not doing something right as far as proper sequence?

I have a feeling I am not engaging properly as you stated. If motor needs to be running when engaging PTO that is most
likely my problem. I know that the PTO handle didn't seem to want to move freely, but the motor wasn't running at that point?

(quoted from post at 17:26:27 10/06/13) I have a feeling I am not engaging properly as you stated. If motor needs to be running when engaging PTO that is most
likely my problem. I know that the PTO handle didn't seem to want to move freely, but the motor wasn't running at that point?

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Yes have motor running (idle or just enough throttle to gently spin your implement without killing tractor). Push foot clutch in. Fully engage PTO lever. Slowly release foot clutch. (makes no difference if you have tranny in Nuetral or a forward gear or reverse gear). Throttle up to desired implement speed from here.

Important Note: Your tractor does not have live or independent PTO. In other words every time you push foot clutch in to stop so will the PTO as the same engine shaft that drives your tranny drives your PTO - or in other words the tranny and the PTO are tied together. In many cases implements (like a bushog or a baler) can cause a flywheeling effect and continue pushing you forward into a fence, building, tree, ditch, etc. through the PTO backfeeding the tranny when you try to stop by pushing the clutch in. Even though you have the clutch pushed in the spinning PTO will continue pushing you in whatever direction you were previously traveling in a very herky jerky fashion until that stored up energy remaining in the spinning implement is extinguished. A $50 to $60 PTO external overrunning clutch is a very wise purchase to make and will prevent the PTO backfeeding the tranny and greatly enhance your safety. These are available from TSC, local dealer, even the internet. With one of these overrunning clutches, you can stop immediately and you will simply hear a ratchet clicking sound of the one way overrunning clutch doing its job for you. (remember to keep the external overrun clutch greased).

Thanks I will try that next time I am at the farm.