Finally got one!!

Goose

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Went to a gun show in Lincoln on Sunday morning, and scored a HighPoint .45 carbine. I've wanted one since they came out several years ago, but at one time dealers waited up to a year for one.

They fire .45 ACP ammo, same as a .45 pistol, but with a barrel three times as long as a pistol, they should have a lot more punch. It has a rack for a laser sight, and with one of those, it should be awesome.

The show itself was--different. Between black powder and regular ammo firearms, there where more tables than I've seen in the place at other gun shows, but nowhere near as much people. A friend of mine who had a table said the biggest problem he had was staying awake. Being Sunday morning usually doesn't seem to keep crowds away, and I can't think of anything else that was going on.
 
Part of the problem for low attendance could be the high prices and lack of any bargains at most gun shows. The last show I was at the prices were 25% higher than at the local dealers plus I had to pay to get into the show. It wasn't worth it for me.
 
Some guys did velocity testing with different barrel lengths for different cartridges by cutting a barrel down one inch at a time. Here's a link to their results for .45 ACP. In most bullet weights, going from 5 to 16 inches should get another 100 feet per second, which is significant for .45 ACP, which runs 1000 to 1100 fps for most loads. On the other hand, the normally subsonic .45 bullet will be pushed supersonic, so it will probably be quite a bit louder coming out of a longer barrel. Note that muzzle velocity actually drops going from 16 to 17 inches.
Ballistics by the inch
 
You won't get a "big boost" in velocity, but it'll push it along a little faster, up to a couple hundred FPS depending on the ammo used. You need to go to a slower powder to get more speed with a longer barrel and most folks don't hand load. Even then, there are limits because of the small powder capacity int he 45ACP. OTOH, having a rifle in any pistol caliber is always fun in my opinion. The 45 ACP is a dandy for most uses outside big game and long range varmint busting. The only thing that I don't like is chasing brass! But, like I said, most people aren't reloaders like me.

A lot of people bad mouth the Hi-points simply because they lack the finesse and elegance of design pretty much every other gun line has. OTOH, they are relatively inexpensive and seem to work very well. It was reported they had a good warranty too a couple years back.

Have fun with it!
 
Another poster nailed it, I'll just agree. The gun shows I have been to in the last few years in my area have turned into craft shows with some guns there as well. You have to pay to get in, the firearms are the same ones that were there last time, and the time before that, and they are all priced too high for my pocket book. There may be some negotiation possible, but I didn't have the desire.
 
The ones in my area were doing that untill external_link got elected. Then the venders got real serious about selling stuff and people got real serious about buying.

Still can't buy a brick of .22s
 
I had a Hi-Point 995 carbine, I wish I'de never sold it. It would be a great little carbine for the kids to shoot with. I put a lot of ammo through that thing and never had an issue even with my hap hazard cleaning habits at the time.

Go to Youtube and search Hi Point torture test and see how tough these cheap guns are - and they have a VERY GOOD WARRANTY. I know a guy that found one in a dumpster that had been through a house fire that pretty much destroyed it (melted stock, warped metal) and sent it in for repair. Got back a new gun.
 
(quoted from post at 20:41:12 10/01/13) Went to a gun show in Lincoln on Sunday morning, and scored a HighPoint .45 carbine. I've wanted one since they came out several years ago, but at one time dealers waited up to a year for one.

They fire .45 ACP ammo, same as a .45 pistol, but with a barrel three times as long as a pistol, they should have a lot more punch. It has a rack for a laser sight, and with one of those, it should be awesome.

The show itself was--different. Between black powder and regular ammo firearms, there where more tables than I've seen in the place at other gun shows, but nowhere near as much people. A friend of mine who had a table said the biggest problem he had was staying awake. Being Sunday morning usually doesn't seem to keep crowds away, and I can't think of anything else that was going on.

I have the same gun in a 9mm. I also have the 45 pistol. Man tehy shoot nice. For the money they are a deal. Both are very accurate and function perfectly.
 
I know what you're saying. You usually don't find too many bargains at gun shows. I usually go to see what prices are doing on stuff I already own. If I stumble onto a deal on something I like, I'll go for it.

Prices may be moderating a bit. A year ago, I bought an AK-47 NIB for $549. For several months after the shooting in Connecticut, the very same thing was going for $1200-$1300. This last Sunday, they were back down to $700-$800.
 
I remember when they were guns shows not gun sales. People would bring in their collection for display and win trophies for the best layout. One guy had a whole wall of 45 long colts but were not displayed by serial number. Always wonder what happened to all those guns when he died.
I had a table for selling and trading for about two years it was fun, I made a deal on a beautiful win. 94 In original condition made about 1919 according to the serial number. Wouldn't sell it for less the $10,000 right now. A kid wanted my old ugly win 85 and traded the 94 and some money for it. Since his dad OKayed the deal I don't feel to bad but he shouldn't have traded.
Walt
 

Here in Pa gun auctions are a big item. Guys go nuts and often pay 2 times what a gun is worth in the real world. Of course value is in the eye of the buyer. New model Navy 44 cal brought $1200 the other day. I don't get it at all.
 
I'm not sure what is going on in the US in terms of people buying up all the ammo, was in a hardware store here in Canada last week and in the gun section that usually has an ammo display on a regular shelf 8 ft long by 3 ft high, there were full pallets of ammo stacked 8 ft high. Some had nothing but 2.5 gallon pails of remington .22 rounds I think 20$ a pail, others had nato mil surplus hardpoint 5.65mm rounds in wooden crates, other had shotgun shells. Of course need your license to purchase any but lots of it there to buy.
 
Forgot, I also have the 9mm pistol. Compared to a 1911A, though, the .45 pistol kinda seems like holding a cordless drill instead of a pistol.
 

Nice! I went to a local good size gun show at the Alcazar Temple (they do charity work with the children's hospital at Birmingham)
at Montgomery, Al recently. Plenty of guns and ammo. The only thing really over priced was .22 ammo. What in the world is happening with the .22 stuff? I did pick up a nice 2 shot derringer in .38 special. I need to pick up some of the .38 snake shot, no I don't kill 'em all, just the copperheads and maybe a rattle snake if it's close to the house. It's just for slipping in my pocket while bush hogging (now its tractor related) or cutting fire wood etc. I like the brushed nickle and it shoots .38 or .38 specials. The barrel can changed out for other sizes such as .45 etc. I have lots of guns, just nothing this small. I usually carry my Ruger 9mm or Dan Wesson .357 or on occasion the Highpoint .40. Seems the gun elitist really hate the Highpoints but mine performs very well and I have never had a problem with it. Way back, they were considered a cheap junk weapon but stepped up their game and started increasing quality with a lifetime warranty. Heck, people have even run over them etc and H.P. will still fix it for free or send a small part that's needed. The price point is good on those also. I saw several new model for around $170-$190.
 
(quoted from post at 09:43:14 10/02/13) I'm not sure what is going on in the US in terms of people buying up all the ammo, was in a hardware store here in Canada last week and in the gun section that usually has an ammo display on a regular shelf 8 ft long by 3 ft high, there were full pallets of ammo stacked 8 ft high. Some had nothing but 2.5 gallon pails of remington .22 rounds I think 20$ a pail, others had nato mil surplus hardpoint 5.65mm rounds in wooden crates, other had shotgun shells. Of course need your license to purchase any but lots of it there to buy.


Local gun shop here reports availability and prices at the wholesale level are right back down to where they were a few years back before the panic. He states the people asking an arm and a leg are simply gouging.

Was in a feed store the other and the clown there had one brick of CCI Blazer 22's- $65.00. It's going to sit there a loooooong time before I buy it!
 

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