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Re: Goodbye Farm Bill

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greg k

10-01-2013 15:12:34

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Lol. Can I bet that you sell milk? Suck to be me going through 4 gallons a week.

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10-02-2013 06:00:48

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 Re: Goodbye Farm Bill in reply to greg k, 10-01-2013 15:12:34  
One cow - selling a gallon to a gallon and a half a day while we drink the rest. At that price I might break even.

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10-01-2013 16:59:52

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 Re: Goodbye Farm Bill in reply to greg k, 10-01-2013 15:12:34  
Sorry Greig but the farmer does not set the price he gets paid and the price you pay at the food store. In fact farmers do not set any of the prices they will be paid for their crops unless they are a small operation selling directly to the consumer .

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greg k

10-01-2013 19:28:22

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 Re: Goodbye Farm Bill in reply to 2badlybent, 10-01-2013 16:59:52  
I guess I didn't mean it that way. I understand that grain farmers try to sell when the market is up, assuming that they Have the option to sit on it and wait. Also dairy farmers I assume sign a contract to supply a determined amount of milk. They both just try yo sell at the best time. So high prices in the store don't really mean high profits for the farmer. That being said it was meant as a joke and I apologize if I offended someone there.

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10-01-2013 15:35:12

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 Re: Goodbye Farm Bill in reply to greg k, 10-01-2013 15:12:34  
I think he is referring to the dairy farmer milking cows recieving $7/cwt .
Try producing it for that.

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10-02-2013 03:59:48

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 Re: Goodbye Farm Bill in reply to TWheat, 10-01-2013 15:35:12  
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Nope, they were saying $7.00 @ gal at the store. Scare tactics.

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10-02-2013 11:32:19

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 Re: Goodbye Farm Bill in reply to Bret4207, 10-02-2013 03:59:48  
The 2008 Farm Bill expired Sept. 30, 2012. Did the world come to an end on Oct. 1, 2012, without a farm bill? No.
The one-year extension of the 2008 Farm Bill expired Sept. 30, 2013. Did the world come to an end without a farm bill on Oct. 1, 2013? No. The $7 per gallon milk at the store projection is based on "permanent law" which is still in effect. The House version of the farm bill proposes replacing permanent law with the commodity title in the new farm bill. That has not become law yet as this thread notes. Just cause the House passed it doesn"t make it law.
Yes permanent law does go back to parity pricing and would set the milk support around $35/cwt. or more which is how they are getting to the $7 per gallon in the store.

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10-03-2013 04:21:10

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 Re: Goodbye Farm Bill in reply to farmallsandcoops, 10-02-2013 11:32:19  
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$35/cwt would be a realistic price and would negate the need for price supports and subsidies, wouldn't it? What makes more sense, underwriting an industry that is forced to accept less for it's product than it costs to produce it by taxing people, or allowing free market forces to hash out the price people are willing to pay? If people were taxed a lot less they'd have a lot more money in their pocket and $7.00 milk wouldn't seem so high, especially when people often pay a lot more than that for soda and water! There are about 6 20 oz bottles of soda in a gallon. At $1.00 (on sale) to $1.99 (at the stop and rob) a bottle that's $6-12.00 a gallon for soda. Bottled water is often more!
$7.00 milk seems kind of low to me.

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