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Re: Nothing worse than a thief

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JD Seller

08-22-2013 07:46:38

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Sure they used a tractor??? Around here the junk guys are just stopping and cutting them up where it is setting an taking off. Read in one of the farm magazines where someone out west lost a fairly new field cultivator that way. Showed a picture of where the grass was brunt from them cutting it up.

If it looks like scrap iron you need to have it nailed down or some body will steal it today.

Good friend collects old single cylinder hit and mis engines. His shop always has a few setting out front waiting for him to fix or repair. Some one stole all of the ones that where outside a few weeks ago. My friend checked the scrap yards around and found where they had been hauled. Got into a big fight with the scrap yard. Even called the law. Did him zero good. He had to have a exact list of the engines and receipts where he bought them. Some of these engines may have been boughten 20-30 years ago. Also a lot of them came from flea markets. Every got a receipt at a flea market??? Long and short the county sheriff just did not want the bother of fooling with something he thought was of low value. Friend had to buy them back for scrap price.

Some one on here was talking about how some one broke into his sheds and stole a bunch of Ford motors here a while back.

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08-22-2013 08:26:43

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 Re: Nothing worse than a thief in reply to JD Seller, 08-22-2013 07:46:38  
JD Seller, when dealing with a theft one must use common sense , I had a theft several years ago and I made a report with the Mich state police first off of all the stolen items before I attempted to look in the scrap yards , I found my stuff in a scrap yard then called the trooper who I made the report with. the scrap yard then had to return "ALL" identified property as it is unlawful to buy or own stolen property. report and identify first then look for the property.

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JD Seller

08-22-2013 08:31:24

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 Re: Nothing worse than a thief in reply to el6147, 08-22-2013 08:26:43  
He did make a report first. The value of the items makes a big difference in the penalty for the thief. The valve of most scrap makes it just a misdemeanor about like a speed ticket. So the law is not very interested in doing much when the thief is just turned lose without much penalty.

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08-22-2013 09:26:18

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 Re: Nothing worse than a thief in reply to JD Seller, 08-22-2013 08:31:24  
JD Seller , you did not say he made the report first,you stated he found his stuff and then called the law ,in my case the items stolen where sold for scrap metal but had a sellable retail value,(like your friends engines) the trooper researched and made his own value on all the items because I along with the county sheriff caught the two men in the act, the sheriff and state police both filled their own reports for several nights of thieving, both men spent time in jail and both paid me restitution for the items plus court cost and I still was able to get my items back , its illegal to own buy or sell stolen property and ignorance of the law is no excuse . MICHIGAN law enforcement loves catching and prosecuting thieves of any type because it is revenue for the county and the state .

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08-22-2013 08:52:44

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 Re: Nothing worse than a thief in reply to JD Seller, 08-22-2013 08:31:24  
Hard to believe the law would allow that to happen. If a Sheriff or Chief of Police did that or allowed that to happen in Louisiana he would be committing malfeasance of office because failing to enforce the law or picking and choosing is exactly what that is. How could a scrap yard stay in business doing things like that, all the scrapyards I have ever done business with went overboard to make sure things were on the up and up, not to mention there are usually state and local laws that cover that type of thing. Your Sheriff must not be very politically savvy if he is Sheriff of a rural county and allows voters scrap iron to be stolen and sold right out from under his nose.

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JD Seller

08-22-2013 09:17:17

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 Re: Nothing worse than a thief in reply to LAA, 08-22-2013 08:52:44  
Prove you own something without pictures, title, or serial numbers. Remember the sheriff has to answer to both sides in this. Maybe I come by your place an call the law and say I own this or that. You would want me to be able to PROVE the items where mine. The scrap yard paid money for the engines. So they do not want to lose that money. My friends could not PROVE those engines where his, at least in a court of law.

I told him to just be glad he got them back for pennies a pound. His shop is on the back of his town lot. You can not see the front of the shop from the house. His pile of engines is only ten feet from the street. I have told him for years he was going to lose them to some one just driving by.

I hate a thief but you have to use some common sense in protecting what you own too.

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08-22-2013 19:00:23

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 Re: Nothing worse than a thief in reply to JD Seller, 08-22-2013 09:17:17  
I suspect some scrapyards are in on the thieving and there is no money trail.

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BILLY Shafer

08-22-2013 08:16:17

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 Re: Nothing worse than a thief in reply to JD Seller, 08-22-2013 07:46:38  
A thief should come under the three S law when caught.

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