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Re: off topic but on topic rant

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mkirsch

06-20-2013 08:31:49
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"If everyone had all the manuals to everything they owned, what would the point of this site be?"

The manuals don't tell you how to troubleshoot problems.

The manuals only go so far in telling you how to take things apart.

There are still lots of questions to be asked even if you do have the manuals.

No offense here but, quit yer b**chin'. I am so sick of people throwing hissy fits because their question wasn't answered exactly the way they thought it should be answered.
God forbid someone offers you a piece of advice that saves you time, saves you money, or saves you from bodily harm.
This is a forum. The advice is free, and worth exactly what you paid for it. Take what you get with a smile and a polite thank-you.

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Russ from MN

06-20-2013 17:45:04
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 Re: off topic but on topic rant in reply to mkirsch, 06-20-2013 08:31:49  
The old manuals told you most everything that you needed to know, nowadays they just give you a lot of safety information and tell you to take it to your dealer if you have a problem!



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hillbillyjack

06-20-2013 17:47:04
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 Re: off topic but on topic rant in reply to Russ from MN, 06-20-2013 17:45:04  
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Those are operators manuals not service manuals, big difference.



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RodInNS

06-20-2013 19:22:57
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 Re: off topic but on topic rant in reply to hillbillyjack, 06-20-2013 17:47:04  
A lot of the older operators manuals, particularly for hay equipment... would give most pertinent information needed for field repairs and all critical adjustments. Lots of times there was no service manual for such things...

Rod



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hillbillyjack

06-20-2013 16:18:32
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 Re: off topic but on topic rant in reply to mkirsch, 06-20-2013 08:31:49  
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Well, you either got the wrong manuals or don't know how to read them, one or the other.

As far as advice on here goes, I would venture a guess that it is a 50/50 split as to who knows what they're talking about and who doesn't as I have read a lot of wrong info on here and a lot of good info as well.

The part about the free advice is dead on.

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JimIA

06-20-2013 13:30:11
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 Re: off topic but on topic rant in reply to mkirsch, 06-20-2013 08:31:49  
Sorry MKIRSCH but the comment "The manuals don't tell you how to troubleshoot problems" is incorrect. There are a lot of implement manuals that DO have a troubleshooting section. They have helped me out on a lot of occasions.

Jim



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mkirsch

06-20-2013 13:43:20
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 Re: off topic but on topic rant in reply to JimIA, 06-20-2013 13:30:11  
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"A lot of occasions" but not EVERY occasion, right? Even with the troubleshooting sections in the manual there were times where you encountered problems that were not covered, or the recommended solution did not fix the problem right?

The point was/is that manuals don't cover everything, and even if you do have them there is still need for forums like this.

That said, you can't get your knickers in a wad just because someone gives you a little extra information...

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