new trailer and tractor hauling

FarmerZeb

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I just sold my old 7k trailer in order to upgrade to a heavier duty trailer. I am debating between a 10,400 trailer with an 8k payload and a 12k trailer with a 9500 lb payload. These are bumper pull equipment trailers with 82 inches between the fenders. I mainly want to be able to haul my 3010 or similar sized tractor (6-7K lbs). I do not think the 12K trailer is worth the extra 800 bucks because any tractor that heavy probably isn't going to fit between the fenders anyways.

thoughts?

-Paul

and for those wondering why not a gooseneck this trailer has a secondary function of transporting the family car between duty stations behind the SUV or box van.
 
i'd go the larger trailer. lets you haul some extra things.. perhaps an extra implement... etc.

having extra seldom hurts.. having not enough can be a PITA
 
Might as well get it if its only a extra 800 bucks, when you go to sell it, it will bring a little more back, and then you know you have a heavy enough trailer to haul larger things if you ever need to.
 
I wish I had gone with a 10k trailer implement trailer instead of buying a 14k. I can"t safely pull 10k behind my truck, so why have a 14k. There has been lots of discussion about pulling a 14k trailer and CDL requirements in some states. Sorry I mentioned CDL.

Save your money and get a 10k, especially if you are going to put it behind a van or suv.
 
Just a suggestion, why not go for a low profile deckover in a 7 ton (14,000 lbs.)trailer. Not much differance in price than a 12k and you can get them in 96 inch and 102 inch. Most dealer have 96" on lot.
 
I priced a 14k deckover and it came in around $4800 the 10k equipment trailer was at $2500. The deck over would be nice but a little out of reach right now.

-paul
 
Given that the vehicle that you can pull the trailer can only pull so much. Keep in mind that the more your trailer weighs the LESS actual pay load you will be able to carry. I guess I am saying get a trailer as heavy as it requires but no heavier. Not what the other posters are saying but too many times I have seen a guy with a pickup that was over loaded with his trailer before he even put anything on the trailer.
 
George,

i'm still looking to get a terramite. I almost had one last week in a trade deal for my 960 Ford but I couldn't get there fast enough and it sold. I'm just waiting for the tractor to sell to buy one. I have a list of landscaping and farm projects when I get on though.

-paul
 
that's another reason I didn't mention in my OP. The 12K trailer is about 600 lbs heavier than the 10k trailer... not too much but could put me over and SUV's limit with a car on it.
 
What length are you pricing? I've never seen a 10,400# equipment trailer anywhere below $3200.I paid $3800 for my 20'er 3 yrs ago and it was the best price in MI at that time for a quallity built one. I'd check it out for quallity brakes,wheels,tires,wiring , jack and method of construction. I think for your situation you might better go for length than more weight capicity. Mine is a 20'er and I've used every inch of it for things I never dreamed of before I bought it. Glad I did. 16' gets pretty short once loaded , I'd at least go 18' and 10,400#. Also a lot easier to sell if ever wanted.
 
these are 18' trailers the quality looks good - dexter axles, led lights, pressure treated deck. Small dealer brings them up from Texas by the semi load once a month and sells them quick.
 
Paul,
Have you tried using ebay or searchtempest.com to find a terramite? I found mine on ebay. Drove 300 miles to get it. I'll never be without it. Just wish I could play with it every day.

I also found a 10k dump trailer on ebay. Picked it up in Elkart, In. 200 mile trip for me.

I recently purchased a 2012 Kawasaki mule 4010. Don't really need it, but the grandkids like it. I've been using the terramite to make more trails in my old gravel pit to drive the mule on. Having fun making trails and having fun giving the grandkids a ride on the mule.

As for your trailer. The most I carry is 5k. I wish my trailer was a 10k, because it would be a few hundred pounds lighter, so I could add those few pounds to the trailer. 10k is all my 1500 truck likes to pull.

Want to buy a 14K? When I pull the 14k without a load, it bounces like a basket ball. The tires are inflated to 90 psi. Put a 3k terramite on it and there is a world of difference in the ride. Also, a 10k will have smaller tires, cheaper, and the deck will be closer to the ground. Less of an incline to climb.

BYW, I asked the same question you did on YT. Most replies on here were, you never know when you might need it, go big. Well, I'll never damage my 14k, but definately wished I had a 10k instead. I upgraded from a 7k, which I sometimes bent the front axle.
George
 
there is a T4 in French Lick Indiana right now for 3800 on cl. If I sell the Ford 960 i'll go get it if it's still there. I just need sell the tractor.

paul
 
Paul,
2 years ago, I purchased my 18+2 implement trailer form Detro trailer. They had a large selection and are less than an hour away. Don"t know where you live, but it might be worth your drive.

George
detro trailers
 
George what make of a 14 k did you have that bounces that bad empty. I have a PJ 14k 24footer and pulls down the road like a dream with no bouncing and tracks great.
 
sure trac, I think the spelling is correct. The axles are spaced back like they should, however because it has two heavy ladder ramps on the back, there is very little tounge weight when it"s empty. I even reduced the tire pressure. Adding a tool box to the tounge helped a little. IMHO, the axles should be back a few more inches to have about 10% of the trailer weight on the tounge when it"s empty. Temped to add sand to the tool box for ballast.

Not to mention, the knees on the ramps had to be modified. I needed to move them so they were in front of the pivot point.
George
 
Paul,
I was going to tell you about the T4. French Lick is Larry Bird country. The T4 has to be very old. No roll cage. 18 hp briggs instead of a 20 hp kohler. Never seen a back bucket like that one either. Looks special made for a rake or something.

Bet you can get the parts you need to rebuild the hydraulic cylinders. They aren't that difficult. I had to rebuild 3. They started leaking. If I ever need an engine, I'll go to small engine warehouse near muncie, in.

I have a Jubilee, otherwise I would be looking at your 960. May I ask what you want for the 960?
George
 
I don't know what the difference in the trailer itself is, but the axles will be nearly identical. The 5200, 6000, 7000 lb axles all use the same bearings and hubs. The 5200 and 6k axles have a thinner wall on the axle tube and weaker magnet in the brakes. The brake shoes are the same.
 
This is what you need. It's rated at 10,000 lbs and is full 8 ft wide. It is on 15 in 6 bolt wheels and the fenders are about 3 in above the deck and are heavy enough to drive over. (I've hauled lots of tractors with the rear wheels sitting on the fenders) I run 8 ply tires and have hauled lots of 10,000 lb pay loads. This type of trailer is hard to find but there are a few out there.

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Go for it! Sounds like good trailer and better price. Mine is Load Trail also made in TX. Does cost something to get to MI though. Mine has adj. 2 5/16 forged hitch , spring loaded 5' ramps , LED lites , upgraded radial tires , same treated deck , diamond tread steel 2' beaver tail etc 6" perimeter frame with 6" tounge under frame all the way back to axles , 83"between fenders , 20' long deck and 7000# jack. The $3800 was tax and all out door.
 

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