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Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD?

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Will Herring

03-31-2013 11:20:08




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I've got a snap coupler plow on a WD that I need to transport about 7 miles on the road. I've got no problem driving the tractor there in road gear, but I was wondering if I should:

1) Leave the hydraulic lever all the way up (keep pumping)?

2) Leave the hydraulic lever in the center position when lifted (the "hold") position?

3) Use some sort of cylinder stop to hold the cylinder extended with the lever in the "down" position?

I want the safest route.

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wolfman

03-31-2013 18:43:32




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 11:20:08  
You have to raise the plow-lever all the way up-, then back the lever off about a notch til you hear it quit pumping. You can 'hear' how much you need to back off the lever. You can definitely "feel" when tractor loosens up.



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Diydave

03-31-2013 14:33:17




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 11:20:08  
If your hydraulics are functioning properly, you need do nothing. If the plow drifts down after running for a while, you have a leak, and need to address it. If you drop a plow on the road it won't penetrate, just annoy you as metal wears off. All the stuff about the plow rotating up, and hitting you in the head, is WHILE plowing dirt, with upper links that WON'T release. Do not wire up the top links, you want them to disconnect, as they were designed to, if the lower link disconnects!

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Traditional Farmer

03-31-2013 16:05:29




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Diydave, 03-31-2013 14:33:17  
The older plows didn't work off the snap coupler clamps they slid on the arm and were held by a pin



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Diydave

03-31-2013 16:17:26




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Traditional Farmer, 03-31-2013 16:05:29  
I know what a hidden pin hitch is. He didn't say which type plow he has. Another poster said to wire up upper SC arms, so they won't open, in the event of a disconnect, at the bottom. The real danger, is converting a pin hitch coupler (at the bottom), but not changing over the top, too. Or wiring the upper snap couplers closed!



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Traditional Farmer

04-01-2013 04:54:11




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Diydave, 03-31-2013 16:17:26  
I always liked to put a safety chain on the tongue of the plow regardless.



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RENE'

03-31-2013 12:07:44




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 11:20:08  

BE sure that the bottom pin or latch is secure a loss could cause death from plow swinging up and over on you. old eqip needs att. RENE'



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Bob Bancroft

03-31-2013 11:38:33




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 11:20:08  
As I imagine you know, when the hyd. system is set properly for plowing(draft control), "hold" position is disabled. There is an inloader valve in the pump which enables you to lift a mounted piece of equipment and leave the lever all the way up. So, either choice would work. Jim's idea about safetying the plow up is a good idea.



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Bob Bancroft

03-31-2013 11:45:04




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Bob Bancroft, 03-31-2013 11:38:33  
sorry- even my proof reading fails- "unloader"



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M Nut

03-31-2013 11:37:06




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 11:20:08  
Hold position. Grandpa used to plow the garden for his minister each spring, and he lived 7 miles from the farm. Grandpa would drive his D-14 with the mounted plow and he always kept the handle in the hold position. He never had any issues in doing that for quite a few years.



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Traditional Farmer

03-31-2013 11:33:03




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 11:20:08  
If the hydraulics are adjusted properly it won't keep pumping with the lever in the up positions.



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Tx Jim

03-31-2013 11:26:54




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 11:20:08  
Iwould leave lever in the neutral position after plow reached full raised hieght and the try to chain/block plow up in case of cyl or hose failure during trip.



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Tx Jim

03-31-2013 13:49:35




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Tx Jim, 03-31-2013 11:26:54  
[quote="Will Herring"](quoted from post at 13:02:44 03/31/13) Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

Where do you hook the chains to to hold the plow?

Will

I always attach my chain to a skyhook :lol:
Seriously I'm not familiar with an AC tractor & plow but if you'll post a photo I will try to help decide how to not have to trust a hyd cyl or hose for long distance road travel.

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Bob Bancroft

03-31-2013 15:11:09




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Tx Jim, 03-31-2013 13:49:35  
Would be pretty tough to chain this up, unless you had a good sturdy back pocket to hook to! Best way in this case would be angle irons clamped to the lift cylinders.



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Will Herring

03-31-2013 15:21:11




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Bob Bancroft, 03-31-2013 15:11:09  

Bob Bancroft said: (quoted from post at 18:11:09 03/31/13) Would be pretty tough to chain this up, unless you had a good sturdy back pocket to hook to!
Best way in this case would be angle irons clamped to the lift cylinders.


Yeah, that is what I had in mind for cylinder stops. Neighbor used to have some great ones for his John Deere stuff that would allow locking stuff in the "up" position for road travel behind a tractor or a truck.
This post was edited by Will Herring at 15:21:30 03/31/13.

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Will Herring

03-31-2013 12:02:44




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Tx Jim, 03-31-2013 11:26:54  

Tx Jim said: (quoted from post at 14:26:54 03/31/13)
Iwould leave lever in the neutral position after plow reached full raised hieght and the try to chain/block plow up in case of cyl or hose failure during trip.[/quote:9a1bd2d4f7]

Where do you hook the chains to to hold the plow?

[quote:9a1bd2d4f7="Bob Bancroft"](quoted from post at 14:38:33 03/31/13) As I imagine you know, when the hyd. system is set properly for plowing(draft control), "hold" position is disabled. There is an inloader valve in the pump which enables you to lift a mounted piece of equipment and leave the lever all the way up.
So, either choice would work. Jim's idea about safetying the plow up is a good idea.


So ummm... If my middle position currently functions as "hold" for remote cylinders (ie. my disc), does that mean it isn't set up properly for plowing?
This post was edited by Will Herring at 12:03:21 03/31/13.

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nebraska cowman

03-31-2013 12:20:17




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 12:02:44  
Correct. If it is set for the remote cylinder it is NOT set for plowing. There would have been originally instruction decal on the battery box to show you how to change between "hold" "draft" and "delayed lift" functions. The instruction will also be in the owners manual. You will want to find those instructions and set it accordingly.



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Will Herring

03-31-2013 12:35:35




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to nebraska cowman, 03-31-2013 12:20:17  
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Okay, I see all the stuff in the manual about "drawbar control" (which seems to be related to plow-type implements) and what screws to set where. Excellent. Thanks.



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Bob Bancroft

03-31-2013 12:12:08




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 12:02:44  
Since the WD only has one lever, (unlike the D series) it has to do everything. To operate draft control("traction booster") the lift lever will set the draft/depth. Depending on how the linkage is adjusted, it could be very difficult, to impossible to get it to work properly with hold position enabled. If you're not utilizing draft control, then I suppose it doesn't matter. Many people are very confused by the WD hyd. system settings. The same label that was on the battery box is in the operators manual. The D series pump is basically the same system, but controlled differently(two levers) and very few setting changes.

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VicS

03-31-2013 13:00:56




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Bob Bancroft, 03-31-2013 12:12:08  
Also if the springs are still on the upper links they will unhook if the snap-coupler unhooks for some reason. If you wire them, you are asking for trouble. I have a neighbor with a nasty scar on his back from that happening. He had just wired one side, thought if had wired both sides would have killed him. Vic



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Will Herring

03-31-2013 13:30:35




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to VicS, 03-31-2013 13:00:56  
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Yeah the snap coupler and bell seem to be in good shape and are not loose, and the springs are still on the two snaps so that they will open and close.

I assume by wired you mean that they are wired on and do not "open" any more?



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VicS

03-31-2013 17:33:02




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 13:30:35  
Yes that is what I meant. Vic



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VicS

03-31-2013 17:31:24




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 Re: Best way to transport a plow attached to an AC WD? in reply to Will Herring, 03-31-2013 13:30:35  
Yes that is what I meant. No worry if the top couplers are spring loaded.



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