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Re: What'll keep ya interested in work.

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JD Seller

03-17-2013 09:12:05
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I always worked all I could. We also always lived well below what we earned. That way we could keep an emergency fund. We had times that ends did not meet but we managed to get by and just would work harder to get the emergency fund back. I usually like to have at least a few months income in that fund.

As for how the average wage/living is going. The average working man has lost ground the last twenty years. I do not blame the rich like many do. If you look at the actual numbers the top 10% pay 90% of the total tax load. Most of us that just make an average income really do not pay that much in direct taxes after you take all of the exemptions off. I think the trouble is the one that do not earn anything. The people drawing a government check is way higher than any other time in the country's history. Also the the medical cost caused by those that do not pay for their care. It is passed along to the rest of us.

Also the attitude that people have about never being at fault for any of their actions. Burn your tongue on hot coffee you sue the restaurant. Then jury's that treat any business that is sued like a Lotto pay out has cause extra cost all through the system. It also is helping cause a loss of productivity that is helping the job loss here.

I often wonder what discovery we are missing because of liability concerns. Think about it. Penicillin has saved millions of lives but it also can kill a small percentage. If it had been developed today it would never have made it out of trials. The first person that reacted to it would have cause the Feds to shut it down as too dangerous to ever be used or if some one died they would have sued the company for millions. That would have stopped the company from making it.

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B-maniac

03-17-2013 14:03:40
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 Re: What'll keep ya interested in work. in reply to JD Seller, 03-17-2013 09:12:05  
JD, I like the way you think , even though I always get flak when I talk like that. I just got done telling my 13 yr old Grandaughter this morning , "when you hear your parents or others preaching about your getting a good job or get educated so you can get a good "job" , tell them you prefer the word "profession" to the word job". The main reason being , you will only go so far working for the man and punching his clock. Find what your passion is and you will do it better than others because you love it and will never work a day in your life. Own the bussiness , don't punch a clock for the other that was smart enough to own their own bussiness. We ,in our schools and universities , seem to promote "getting a job" as apposed to getting a profession and owning the company. The word "entrapeneurism" (sp?) is hardly heard of in education anymore. It's like they would rather have a bunch of followers as apposed to leaders. If it wasn't for those , there would be no jobs. Our Govt. is no better , they would just as soon penalize an entrapeneur and give to deadbeat union factory worker who has no work ethic and knows he doesn't have to. I better stop before it ge's deleted.

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Spook

03-17-2013 11:21:30
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 Re: What'll keep ya interested in work. in reply to JD Seller, 03-17-2013 09:12:05  
I don't know. When I 1st started working for the megacorp, in 1979, the ceo made 300K. The production workers about 30K. 30 years later, the ceo was making 12 million, and the production workers 58K. And the number of production workers was reduced by about 90%. ( in this country ). Some folks are doing a lot better at the expense of some others.



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LAA

03-17-2013 12:27:35
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 Re: What'll keep ya interested in work. in reply to Spook, 03-17-2013 11:21:30  
So your one of those people who believe no one succeeds of their own hard work, sacrifice and initiative? its always at the expense of ''others'', even though the majority of the ''others'' are too lazy and or too stupid to make the most of their opportunities. Your unions drove the factories and jobs away from your neck of the woods, if you want to find those jobs and a lot more look south in the ''right to work'' states where unions are despised. There have been attempts to unionise the oilfield my whole working life and the workers were the ones who always drove the union thugs away, no union means the employer gets an honest days work and that is why we have good wages and benefits.

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Traditional Farmer

03-17-2013 11:34:49
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 Re: What'll keep ya interested in work. in reply to Spook, 03-17-2013 11:21:30  
If it wasn't for the brains of the 300K CEO the whole company might have went overseas so where would that put those folks making $58,000?



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