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Re: New Ram V6

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03-16-2013 20:17:45

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This website talks about the ecoboost and the 5.0 vs the hemi, and when pulling a lot the ecoboost uses more fuel than the hemi, not to mention big loads require big cubic inches, which the hemi has, and said hands down more power, while your getting a proven hemi, and the ecoboost isn't a proven engine yet.

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03-17-2013 07:13:01

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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-16-2013 20:17:45  
At this point, the ecoboost has basically proven itself. Most of their problems were early on, not with the engine, but the transmission pump, based on what I could find on google. Secondly, your comparsion link is written by Dodge. Some of the information(on the diesel engine) is based on the fact that they didn"t test the latest engine, and a win is basically assumed. They mention the 5.0L at the beginning of the comparsions but then only compare the 3.5 and 5.7. 5.0 must not have done that bad. Look at the torque curves for the Eco-Boost. It not only has more torque, but peaks sooner at 2,500rpm. the Hemi peaks at around 3,900rpm. Which one is more useful for towing? I have no doubt that the Hemi tows well, but I also have no doubt that the Eco-Boost tows well. I"m not a fan of dodge trucks, nor am I a fan of comparsion reports written by Dodge that obviously favour Dodge. Add to that, the only thing Dodge ever had going for it was the Cummins engine. In a 1/2 ton that isn"t available. On top of that, the already low quality Ram is now being engineered by Fiat. Nobody knew they could get worse, but somehow they managed.

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03-17-2013 10:16:44

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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to farmer boy, 03-17-2013 07:13:01  
That's funny, the have a diesel in the 1500 next year, and there the best truck on the road, hold resale the best to. Oh and to mention the 2500 and bigger are rated 3 tons more rowing than the ford or Chevy, and they offer the best warranty to top it off, and if you get a larmie or larmie longhorn, they have the nicest I interior of any truck hands down no comparison.

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03-18-2013 06:10:42

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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-17-2013 10:16:44  
I just took it for granted that you wree telling the truth. Have you looked at Ram"s warranty. 3 year 36,000mile full warranty, 5 year 100,000mile powertrain warranty and outer panel perforation warranty. 3 year inner panel perforation warranty. Chevy is the same but has a 6 year 100,000 mile perforation warranty. Ford"s powertrain warranty isn"t quite as good. 5 year 60,000 miles. The rest is the same as Dodge.

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03-18-2013 07:08:17

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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to farmer boy, 03-18-2013 06:10:42  
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Here I thought we were talking about trucking , not Playing in the mud and rocks!! In that case, skip the PU and get an old used Jeep that will be purpose built vs a compromise and will kick the P-Wagons arse up one side and down the other everyday, including Sunday!!!

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03-18-2013 16:52:44

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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to jammison, 03-18-2013 07:08:17  
To bad a jeep can't pull a fifth wheel trailer and rock climb.

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03-17-2013 21:10:32

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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-17-2013 10:16:44  
I have never noticed any better resale on Dodges. That may be regional though. You rarely see people/businesses that depend on their trucks in a Dodge. Ford is by far the most common, followed by Chevy/GMC, and in a very distance third Dodge. Of all the people I know that own a Dodge and actually use it as a truck, they ALL own a diesel. I know some people that own gas Dodge's, but they use them as a DD and towing their camper and boat occasionally. Warranty is simply to entice more people to buy a Dodge. They(FIAT) know what their main downfall is(reliability), and try to get by it by offering a better warranty. The PowerWagon has a gvwr of 8510lbs. Chevy did better than that 25 years ago. A Powerwagon has a curb weight of 6650lbs. That leaves you with an actual 1860lbs of payload(legally). Both the Ford and Chevy have a GWVR of 9,900lbs, giving them a payload of over 1.5tons. The PowerWagon has a towing capacity of 10,200 lbs. Ford is at 15,300lb towing. 3790 payload. Chevy is around the same for towing and payload as Ford. Ford is over 10000 cheaper, Chevy is 7000 cheaper. When you actually sit down and take a good hard look at the numbers(all the numbers), the Dodge doesn't really look that good.(not that it ever did)

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03-17-2013 10:19:56

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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-17-2013 10:16:44  
"3 tons more rowing than the ford or Chevy"

HaHaHa. Good one! I guess rowing is what you would do when It won't cross the creek...?

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