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Re: New Ram V6

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VicS

03-16-2013 18:10:36
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It may be rated more, but in real life the little eco-boost will run circles around it. The eco-boost has torque down low, not at 4600. pulls like a diesel. try one! Vic




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G1355

03-16-2013 18:55:30
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to VicS, 03-16-2013 18:10:36  
Trust me I've drove one, I drive a hemi every day and the hemi is way more than the ecoboost, that's why they run the hemi in the 2500 to, try a hemi there wild.the ecoboost didn't hold a candle to the hemi. The 5.7 hemi will outpull out haul the ecoboost any day of the week hands down, no comparison.



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molinebob

03-16-2013 19:05:51
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-16-2013 18:55:30  
Dodge dosent even make a true hemi anymore, they were gonna lose the rights to the hemi name so they started using the name again, do some research on it and find out for yourself, the new "HEMI" isnt even close to the old "HEMI" All it was in the old days was the heads and combustion chamber, just a different shape...Fords eco boost will outperform any chevy or dodge v8 on the market plus get better mileage...and its a v6

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farmer boy

03-17-2013 08:26:11
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to molinebob, 03-16-2013 19:05:51  
The 3.5 will come close to both the Ford and Chevy 6.2, but will not out-do it. As far as the 5.7, numbers don't lie. The Eco-Boost has more torque at lower rpm's and will out pull the Hemi, no question about it.



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G1355

03-17-2013 10:22:27
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to farmer boy, 03-17-2013 08:26:11  
If its so close why isn't it offered in the f250?????? And the hemi has everything Chevys 6.2 has, I've compared in real life against a Chevy 6.2 but haven't compared to the ford 6.2



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G1355

03-16-2013 19:28:27
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to molinebob, 03-16-2013 19:05:51  
And it's a 3rd generation hemi, hope there not the same, they improved them a lot over the years.



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G1355

03-16-2013 19:24:11
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to molinebob, 03-16-2013 19:05:51  
Well if its so powerful and fuel efficient why isn't it in the f250? Like the hemi its in the 1500 and 2500. I have a cousin that has a 2011 f150 ecoboost and we have a 2012 dodge powerwagon, I had a 375 buschel seed tender and he had a 300 bushel seed tender and I passed him like he was standing still. And I had an extra 75 bushels of soybeans behind me. So no the ecoboost will not outperform the hemi. We've had a real life experience with it.

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VicS

03-16-2013 20:38:25
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-16-2013 19:24:11  
Come on. Did you both stop, and have a real drag race. No-body ever looses a street race. Case in point. I was driving a F250 with a 5.4 pulling a backhoe leaving town, there is a fair hill. A friend with a load of big round bales on a 30 ft trailer, saw me coming, and thought he needed to get ahead of me, because he didn't want to follow me up the hill. But was so much traffic he couldn't. Well I saw him and I started getting on it. I screamed that little 5.4 over that hill and and never held him up at-all. He has been telling everyone that I have the powerfullest gas truck in the county. That it out pulled his diesel. It was just I saw him coming and anticipated.

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G1355

03-17-2013 00:05:40
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to VicS, 03-16-2013 20:38:25  
Oh, I drag race him all the time and beat him, he loves to brag about how fast and powerful that ecoboost is, I think it's funny when I load up 10 round bales and the s650 bobcat, and its around 25000 pounds and he tries todo the same thing, and the dodge will play with it, while he has a hard time getting to 60, I'm long gone, fact of the matter is it takes cubic inches to pull and the ecoboost isn't got them to spare.

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farmer boy

03-17-2013 08:50:22
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-17-2013 00:05:40  
I'm also quite curious what kind of mileage you got while weighing 25,000lbs.



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G1355

03-17-2013 10:20:25
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to farmer boy, 03-17-2013 08:50:22  
Around 8, and the hemi pulls 25,000 just fine, try one out in the powerwagon with the 4:56 rearend there wild.



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farmer boy

03-17-2013 10:44:05
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-17-2013 10:20:25  
Now we're talking about 2 different things. You're talking about a 3/4 ton with 4.56 gears vs a 1/2 ton Eco-Boost with 3.55 or 3.73 gears. A 5.7 with 4.56 gears will NEVER EVER break 15mpg.Don't argue with me on this, there are reports all over the internet about 12-13 being average. An Eco-boost with 3.73 gears will get 20+mpg and have all sorts of power. This guy wants a truck that will get good mileage. A powerwagon does not fit the bill. A regular cab 4x4 Eco-Boost costs around 30-32,000. The Powerwagon is 48,000 base price. You can get a 6spd manual with a Cummins for aobut $1,000 more. No argument about that being more truck than the Eco-Boost.

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G1355

03-17-2013 15:52:37
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to farmer boy, 03-17-2013 10:44:05  
Ya I know its more truck, and the powerwagon option is 7400 and the cummins is 6500, and look at the picture above, I can get16-17 all day long diving it 60 taking it easy on it, if you keep your foot in all the time, it probebly does get 13 but that's not what I get or how I drive. I know what I get mpg, I drive one every day, and have figured it with paper and pencil to.



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farmer boy

03-17-2013 08:08:32
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-17-2013 00:05:40  
If your going to tell stories, you're going to have to make them believable. A 2012 diesel could hardly play with 25,000lbs, let alone a Hemi. The only replacement for displacement is technology. The Eco-Boost has both direct injection, turbos, and extra tuning. Numbers don't lie. The Eco-Boost has more torque at lower rpm's, and a flatter torque curve. Ford has "hands-down" the best 1/2 ton on the market today. Chevy is a joke with their 14 year old 5.3L engine. At the end of the day, it's still a Dodge, and to make a bad thing even worse, FIAT owns it now. I'm a Chevy guy and I would consider buying a Ford, the only way I would ever consider buying Dodge is if it had both a Cummins and a manual transmission. I really don't think I could buy a '94+ truck because of their front end problems. If I'm going to have to spend $4000 on a truck, it may as well be on injectors for a Duramax, becuase I would have a good truck when it's done.

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Stick welding

03-17-2013 01:09:28
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to G1355, 03-17-2013 00:05:40  
The only true Hemi was the 426! They didn't improve on it, they brought out a new engine and used the Hemi name because of the 426's deserved reputation. Torque is what pulls, not horsepower or cubic inches. The ecoboost is proving itself to be a very solid and reliable engine. Most people aren't pulling all the time and the ecoboost gets great mileage. You bought a Hemi and are obviously very biased. Look at the old (4.9)300-6 Ford. They put that engine in one tons because it had a lot of torque. Then look at the 4.3 Chev V6 and it couldn't pull itself over a couple of toothpicks.

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leej

03-17-2013 06:49:20
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 Re: New Ram V6 in reply to Stick welding, 03-17-2013 01:09:28  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeTo use his favorite phrase, G1355 has to be the 'hands down' all time 'sheet' talker of this and any other forum. Especially hands down for such a little wet behind the ears squirt.



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