Smooth 3020 Diesel

T.E.C. · Mar 14, 2013

Is it ever going to warm up outside??? Anyways, I've
had some time to get caught up and I'm well under
way on Dad's 3020. It's here for a major because it
was getting pretty tired. I usually only use genuine
OEM parts but I'm thinking aftermarket. I found a
kit that is supposed to run quieter and start
better. It is made by Reliance. Would like to know
if anyone has used them and if they are good for a
tractor that will get worked hard from time to time.
Thanks guys.

rrlund · Mar 14, 2013

All I know anymore on those 20 series Deere's is that if you go to the dealer you'll probably end up with parts from A&I anyway. That's what happened last time I needed parts for a 1020 anyway.

magpiene · Mar 14, 2013

It is still Deere. A&I is owned by Deere.

T.E.C. · Mar 14, 2013

I did the 4020 in '08 with Deere parts. i understand that Federal Mogul makes these kits for Deere but to their standards. I had a kit from A&I a while back and was not impressed. I have a gram scale I use for grinding snowmobile clutch weights and weighed a Deere piston and the Clevite piston from A+I. The piston from A&I was about a third less mass than the Deere. Just want to know if Reliance is a decent product or if I should pay double the green for the green.

BANDITFARMER · Mar 14, 2013

Deere only owns 49 percent of A&I, This was as of December of last year. Bandit

bock · Mar 14, 2013

i got a reliance kit for a 4430 and the sleave and piston assembly were already put together but i had to take them apart and clean them up because they were dirty with what seemed like honing grit all over sleaves

Bob · Mar 14, 2013

Deere bought the remaining 64% in December 2010.

Don't believe me? Look at Page 27 in the SEC filing at THIS link (.pdf):
http://www.deere.com/en_US/docs/Corporate/investor_relations/pdf/financialdata/reports/2011/2011_q1_10q.pdf

Or, thew press release at THIS link: http://www.portageonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20450

JD Seller · Mar 14, 2013

If the kit you are talking about is supposed to have higher compression pistons in it then they are a cheap import set. I used a set a customer just demanded to use three years ago. After two years use(about 750 hours) it started to have a lot of blow by. He brought it back to me raising cain about how "MY" overhaul did not last. I pulled it apart and the Reliant parts looked worse with 750 hours of use than the OEM ones did with 7000 hours on them.

If it is a tractor you are going to keep then go with JD parts. NOT A&I either. JD may own the company but the engine kits are different. The JD kit is still available. Some dealers are playing fast and loose with the A&I parts. They tell the customer that they are getting JD parts and give them A&I parts. The dealer can pocket the extra profit he makes on selling the A&I parts for JD price.

On some of the clutches you can not get the JD one any longer you have to go with a A&I one if you buy it at JD. I go else where when that is the case. If I am buying after market parts then I will not pay too much for them.

travis miranowski · Mar 15, 2013

If you are going to keeep the tractor dont try to save a few bucks on cheap parts use OEM john deere parts. I used a reliance kit once and I can say they are garbage.

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