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Adirondack case guy

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A local 4 year old was killed here yesterday whe he fell off the tractor that he was a pasanger on. I can't imagin letting a small child ride on an open station tractor. There are no published details yet other than the town and road name, on the local TV station, but the local grapevine has been active. It has to be devistating to the father who was driving the tractor.
Loren, the Acg.
 
Poor little fella, he probably just wanted to ride and his Daddy probably just wanted to take him along. Its a terrible thing, I hope the Good Lord leads that family.
 
A very unfortuate situation. As much as we want to please, entertain and share time with our children, we must say NO sometimes. My prayers for the family, this will be rough for years. gobble
 
I sometimes give my grand kids rides on OS tactors. 1st gear as slow as it will go and only when they are small enough to fit on my lap. Would never think of taking a kid out on the road or doing field would with em on the tractor.

That has to be bad for the dad.

Rick
 
Without more facts it is hard to say whether or not the father was in the wrong. My kids rode a tractor at a very young age. It almost always was setting between my legs on the seat and me driving real slow around the barn yard or pasture.

I have seen some guys do things with kids on board that scarred the heck out of me. The ATVs are even worst. There is a guy right up the road that lets his little kids ride his 4 wheeler. They can't even reach the foot peddles but they ride them wide open. They many times are just hanging on by the handle bars.
 
What state was this in Loren?

My heart goes out to the driver and the boy's family! Very Sad!! Prayers being sent!
 
This is the type of things that scares me. My 4 year old son wants to help with everything and be right in the middle of everything we are doing. He has no fear when it comes to some things. I love having him around, but its hard to watch him constantly
 
Some years back a farmer got into the habit of riding his young grandkids in a bucket loader on his tractor when they came to visit. One day they hit a hole and it bounced one (or maybe both, can't remember) out and the grandfather ran over him before he could stop. If that had been me, they might as well have dug two graves for the funeral.
 
I used to spend alot of time riding with my father and grandfather when I was young. I would sit on the fender and hold on to the rops, usually mowing or scraping the driveway.
 
That seems to happen all to often. We had one guy here who had a kid fall off, ran him over with a 15ft batwing mower. I can understand taking the kids for a ride, but running a big mower like that?
 
(quoted from post at 18:26:13 03/09/13) I can understand taking the kids for a ride, but running a big mower like that?

I think you nailed it here Spook.
How can we teach them and get them interested if they're never allowed on one.
On the other hand, we're supposed to be the ones that know the dangers.
There's always danger, they're machines without feelings, but limiting those
dangers to something reasonable is what we need to be doing.
My grandkids ride with me on some tractors, not the ones with loaders or
no safe place to ride or any tractor doing real work,
My nieces and nephews are old enough to drive them around the drive
way themselves now.
They all know they can't ride if a PTO is running, it's just a "law" around here.
I feel for that family and can only imagine the beating that poor man is giving
himself. Hind sight being what it is.
 
Hi
This is a very sad story and feel bad for all involved. you say about seeing guys do stupid things.
I came across a video on Tube with a guy tractor pulling with one Kid on his knee, and the other sitting on the fender. What a total stupid thing that was to be doing.
what happened if she reared or something else went wrong. In some places there are laws stating you cant be on a tractor while being driven or the driver until you are a certain age. I hope they don't have that law in the state of the accident . Somebody's gonna hurt more than once if they do!.
Regards Robert
 
Couple of years ago I psssed by a place where the guy was running a rotary cutter with two small children (under 10) were sitting one on each fender. He wasn't just taking the kids for a ride, he was clipping his field. I got on my cell phone and called the Sheriff's office. A deputy was there in about five minutes. None of my business? I don't mind being called a meddler.
 
I used to pull the disc at 7 and was plowing with a D-4 cat at 11 so what is the big deal about riding. They will never learn how to do things setting in the house. The disc was pulled by a Massy-Harris 44 and 12ft disc. The plow was a 4 bottom on the cat. Dad and I walked a six bottom plow to keep it from plugging on 10acres one time. Tramping the grass between the bottoms as the other drove in low or second. We traded off as we got tired. I was just out of school at that time. Also owned my first shotgun at around 10-12.
 
(quoted from post at 16:45:41 03/09/13) Couple of years ago I psssed by a place where the guy was running a rotary cutter with two small children (under 10) were sitting one on each fender. He wasn't just taking the kids for a ride, he was clipping his field. I got on my cell phone and called the Sheriff's office. A deputy was there in about five minutes. None of my business? I don't mind being called a meddler.

I certainly hope you pulled off the road before hopping on that infernal cell phone.
 
(quoted from post at 16:05:29 03/09/13) I can't believe I'm still alive. I used to stand on the drawbar of an H Farmall and straddle the PTO while my Uncle mowed hay. Ellis

OK so you lived, just how many children died or were injured doing the same thing? Because it is so preventable even one is too many! A tree falling in a storm, a mud slide, and other things are an act of God. Getting wrapped up in a PTO, chunked by a Bush Hog, sliced by a disk or crushed under a tire is preventable!

Rick
 
A friend had that Happen. His Little 4 year old Girl Fell out the Door.on his Dads farm over 20 years ago, I didn"t know it till his Wife told me 3 years ago.Some how the Door Came open & even With tire Chains on It Didn"t Stop & Ran Over Her .You Just Never know Who or Where Things like this Can happen.
 
I do think it falls under a category that Americans are more and more lacking...COMMON SENSE.

You should know your kid and if he/she knows how to hang on, how old they are, their maturity level, and the proper amount of danger to put them in according to the previous conditions.

I was apparently very mature and responsible kid. Drove solo my first vehicle (64 f250) while being pulled by my dad, who was driving the JD620 pulling a drag, with the 64f250 chained behind. He said just steer it, keep the chain fairly tight and remember the brake. We went two miles and made it just fine. I was 4years old.
 
(quoted from post at 21:17:00 03/09/13) I do think it falls under a category that Americans are more and more lacking...COMMON SENSE.

You should know your kid and if he/she knows how to hang on, how old they are, their maturity level, and the proper amount of danger to put them in according to the previous conditions.

I was apparently very mature and responsible kid. Drove solo my first vehicle (64 f250) while being pulled by my dad, who was driving the JD620 pulling a drag, with the 64f250 chained behind. He said just steer it, keep the chain fairly tight and remember the brake. We went two miles and made it just fine. I was 4years old.

And you could see out the windshield and use the brakes on a '64? I need bigger boots! I would believe 8 or 9, but I know, the older we are the bigger our stories! :wink:
 
I was 4, I know this because at 5 we was living at the place we transported this rig from. I did have to stretch a bit for the brake though. By 8 I was working fields with a Massey Harris 44 and a Kewanee 12ft disk or 12 JD drag. I still have the JD620, MH44 and the disk.
 
I take grandkids on rides one at a time,no emplement on tractor,sitting between my knees. I forbid anyone,young or old in vacinity while rotory mower is in use. Passengers while doing a chore is a bad idea regardless of age. Nephew's wife was recently injured while mowing pasture land. She was traped between low hanging tree limb and protective screen. Her reaction time could have been delayed or prevented alltogeather had a passenger been on tractor.
 
I occasionally used to take my 4 and 5 yr old with me on the tractor,one at the time standing beside me on the axle with my arm around him.
I would not do that today but I thought nothing of it at that time.

It must be devastating to loose a child that way or any way :shock:
But manure happens and will keep happening,..i know one guy who lost a 5 year old trying to keep him safe when doing feeding chores with his loader tractor.
He locked him in a calf pen in the barn, when he came back he found the kid had accidently hung himself on a piece of balertwine hanging on the devider wall when trying to climb over it into the next stall were his pet goat was.
 
Thoughts and prayers to the family.

You know, in over 20 years in police work I saw kids killed in a variety of ways. Drownings, electrocution, soccer and other sports, bicycles, climbing trees and rocks. One little toddler got caught in a gutter cleaner. Nut the vast majority of child deaths I saw were cars and ATVs. People run their kids over and they let them fall out the window of moving cars or worse, they give them an ATV and just let them do whatever they want. What do you do? I'm sure we all did things that would freak the safety nazis out. What one person does for a lifetime will be certain death for another.

I'm done criticizing other peoples people choices. I know my kids will never have an ATV. That's the biggy for me. For other people, have at it.
 

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