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Re: Trucks stuck at truckstop

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03-07-2013 07:31:15

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I can honestly say that i never got stuck to where i needed a tow. A couple times i did have to borrow some road salt out of the trailer to get moving . Also it has a lot to do with what is on the drives for tires that make a difference if you go or if you get towed. I remember one time back in 73 i was running with a new driver and he and i hauled a load of coal to Cleveland to Republic steel and dropped it and he and i headed over to the salt mine to get a load of road salt when it started snowing hard . we had to wait to load due to the huge amount of trucks loading and the snow was piling up fast . By the time we did get loaded and our paper work there was over a foot of snow on the ground . Well the salt mine sets about ten feet above lake Eire and to get UP to W25th st. ya got to go UP hill and over the humpity backed rail road bridge . As we maded the first left turn all we could see were trucks setting because nobody could get up the hill let lone over the bridge. Jim and i were driving Macks , mine had a good running 318 with a 13 speed and he was driving a V8 Mack we both had tri axle City Welding Dumps and only had 25 ton on . I was NOT just set and wait for the City of Cleveland to come and clear the road as you may be there till the next day. I went around all the parked trucks setting along the curb and started hearing on the C B just where do you THINK your going , i am getting out of here i am not setting and waiting . I made the right turn and had about 200 feet to the bridge . I figured if i just could get into second gear and get them drives locked in maybe i could get out . Told Jim to hold back and see what happens, well i made the turn and got second gear felt the quiver of the drive lock in and up over till the ft. axle of the trailer hit the hump and i spun out . OK so that did not work go to plan B , (plan B) back down the street and get a run for it . So backed down the street and made a run for the hill . well that worked some what but still spun out . (Plan C ) back down street again but this time as soon as the trailer clears the bridge trip the gate and lay down some salt. On the first pass i got down a good layer of salt . but still could not make it up the hill . So backed down again and cleaned off the apron and closed the gate and raised the bed up and shifted some salt up against the gate and let the bed down and made a run in the hill again and made it feather up and was able to spread more salt past where i dropped it the first time . Then i had Jim do this two times and another driver did it and another and another and we were out of the hole and everybody was able to get out . Also one of the benefits of hauling road salt and always being up at the mine they would GIVE you baged salt to carry on your truck if you just asked and two 80# bags will get you out of trouble . Just by putting some down in ft. of the drives and behind the drives just a foot on each side will save your donkey . IF you HAVE A GOOD DRIVE TIRE and you know what that switch on the dash is for if your not driving a Mack with Mack rears . In all the years i hauled coal out of nasty old strip mines in all weather and before the state trucks came out not once did we every have to have a tow . Yea there were times we did have to hike back to the mine to get the loader to DIG our way back in due to snow drift and to put down some slack coal on the ice of the hills . But that OLD Mack R700 with that OLD 318 and 13 speed if you got her into second gear she would go thru axle deep mud or headlite deep snow . The old 4300 was no slouch in bad weather either

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03-12-2013 22:30:35

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 Re: Trucks stuck at truckstop in reply to The tractor vet, 03-07-2013 07:31:15  
Fuel costs and emissions killing your rigs profits

Today is a new wave in the fuel assist systems for the hard pressed truckers who are operating on skinny margins and there never seems to be an end in sight.

Now on the converse if someone was to come to the table with a revolutionary fuel assist system that can change the bottom line profitability and improve the truck driver experience of driving every day trips, whether it is around the state or from coast -to-coast.

What do we know?

Over 2 million trucks in the USA drive 139 Billion miles per year at 6 mpg or less.

There is a company now set upon the path to revolutionize this industry for the fleets and owner operators, however the skeptics are going to do everything to shoot it down and unfortunately for them will be the sore losers when their competitors hit the streets with lower numbers in actual gallons used for the same trips in the past per their logs...

Of course their are a number of ways to research the quality of a product and to put a slant on it so that any individual who reads this blog or others will believe or not about a system, but this is a specific search that all truckers should print out and read in their leisure in their cabs, and it comes from the founder of the "Carbon War Room", and the link that refers directly to the truckers is an article written by Kimble at

Now it is our opinion that should an offer that this company has developed an advanced fuel cell for hydrogen enhancement of diesel fuelled commercial vehicles, with an average 50% farther per gallon of diesel that it must be some kind of trick or hoax, and nothing is further from the truth.

This new fuel assist hydroxy is going to be better than the Kleenex Tissue for the diesel fuel consumers. Believe it or Not.

The company claims that it is not one of the simple electrolysis kits, nor do they use chemicals.

Perhaps a quote from an older more famous individual will put a question in your mind...
"I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable...
... Water will be the coal of the future."
Jules Verne,
The Mysterious Island, 1874
Rudolf Diesel (born Paris 1858) noted that steam engines were only 10% efficient, wasting up to 90% of the energy available in the fuel, and was driven by the goal of achieving much higher efficiency ratios.
In 1898 he was granted a patent for what has become known as the Diesel engine. That first Diesel engine was 26% efficient.
While much refined and improved, the energy conversion efficiency of diesel engines today is roughly 42-50%, with higher efficiency models being designed that aim for 60%.
It is that significant gap in efficiency where this fuel cell product provides benefit. The dynamically adjusted volume of hydrogen and oxygen gases produced become an intelligently controlled additive to the diesel fuel- air mix to improve combustion efficiency. Greater efficiency of the combustion means better fuel economy and emissions reduction. Hydrogen also merits a higher octane rating than diesel fuel.
Perhaps those of you who are still unsure and want to know more should do their own thinking and homework.
Running a fuel cell with High octane hydrogen and oxygen gases and are extracting efficiently from pure water by computer driven multi-factor harmonic optimization methods, matching our acceleration and engine demand and have increased the 4.56 - 5.37 ave mpg to get 7 mpg to 9 mpg, in the 2000 Freightliner xl classic with 60 series detroit 470 hp engine and super 10 transmission on our runs from KS-MO-TX-CA-WA-OR-MO-KS,
With a little modification (& cost increase) can even add a bunk heater turbine and run it off the same system to provide the rig and cab with heat or airconditioner.
This system even works marvelously on the Refers.
This has given owners the ability to increase orders with vendors and to be able to run longer routes for less cost.
Bottom-line is to drive hills at an even speed without suffering fatigue on personal health or rigs.
Firm say they can run 10 trucks and save $1,635,000 in costs over two years.
The system is maintained with plain water and filters changed at every oil change (if required).
Every two years trucker will get a brand new model with the refi of lease.
You work the numbers on your rig.
slash the emissions and fuel costs and feel like regain some dignity from the fuel company surcharges.
Your logs could be vastly improved and put more cash in your pocket.
Another idea is to pass 20% of the profit drivers save in fuel cost back to the vendors so they will increase their orders with you.
You may see the similar benefits with your rigs.
This post was edited by Andrew.H2oTex at 12:08:05 03/13/13 2 times.

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